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A link to a few pictures for now. Comments to follow.
http://picasaweb.google.com/emanuel.james/SacramentoAppleseedJanuary17182009?authkey=xOlXcrPbuMc#
How can any of us thank the volunteer instructors enough? Funfaler, Savage Shooter, Wade, Rock Chucker, Cameron, Mr. Bill, F-Stop, Desert Dog. I'm sure there are some I missed. Each of you had something to make the Appleseed experience something really special. And more folks behind the scenes who we did not meet. Phil "V", who I understand is pretty good example of the value of persistence. And of course, the big locomotive who has been pulling the California freight train along, Bob210. We owe you all much gratitude for showing us our own heritage again.
Persistence. I first heard that word applied to marksmanship from Atticus, two month ago in Fallon, Nevada. "A Rifleman persists," Atticus told me many times, because I needed to hear that more than anything else. My first AQT in Fallon I shot 168. That was my best score of the weekend. I had problems with my sling, my rifle, my ammo, my sights. Most of my AQT's were under 100.
But I went home determined. I was inspired by the stories of our Revolution. I got my equipment problems worked out. And I practiced dry firing the AQT nearly every day on a scaled down target. When the Sacramento shoot was announced, I was READY. Persistence paid off with a 237 on the first AQT Saturday, followed up Sunday with a 236, 234, 234, and a 227 on the Liberty shoot.
I urge YOU to persist. Be ready for April 19, 2009.
CONGRATULATIONS JAMES! Impressive scores! Most people refuse to accept the fact that dry firing is the least expensive and one of the most beneficial forms of practice.
Several messages here folks, one: PERSISTANCE pays off. Two: repetitive dry firing, following the six steps, works those steps into your muscle memory. Which translates into smaller groups. And last: if you haven't thought about jumping in and helping with this program you don't know what you are missing. It feels great to have someone that you spent a few minutes with over the course of a weekend two months ago mention your name and thank you AGAIN for doing something you already enjoy. There's not much better.
Thank you James, I look forward to seeing you on the Appleseed trail in the near future.
Atticus
Wow! What a very exciting weekend!
"Getting out of the office" was great, working at the largest California shoot in history, working with a great crew and great group of participants. THAT is a great way to spend a weekend. Only my wife and kids can top it.
I am sure there will be many reports, with over 80 participants, there should be many posts on this event. Not wanting to steal thunder from the Shoot Boss (thanks V) or "ramrod Bob", I can easily say that this was a very successful and very productive shoot.
The Cali Appleseed team is exceptional, and it was an honor to work with them, even as they took every opportunity to hammer me, call me out and all around harass me at every turn, even my dirty laundry was exposed to untold abuses, and shall remain forever scarred. :P
The quality of the Appleseed folks may only be matched by the quality of the shooters on the line. We had over 80, good natured, persistent, dedicated shooters. These folks shot some very fine groups, with many on the cusp of Rifleman, 6 breaking through the barrier. Some new IITs, contacts for new CA locations, and many new members to the Appleseed family, willing to take up their buckets and do their part for the Cause.
The seeds planted in Sacramento, already bearing some fruit, will soon be a solid root in the Appleseed Project.
Special thanks to the Sacramento Valley Shooting Range, this is a world class facility, with world class folks. Their support was obvious and greatly appreciated, and it does appear as a good and lasting relationship has been forged.
California, who would have imagined, just a year ago, that this place would become a beacon and example for the whole Appleseed Program? The greatest lesson to take away, is that seeds sown are worth the effort. Looking at the seeds that were sown here, and the way they have taken root, should serve as a motivation for all the other Appleseeders. We have many good folks in the program, sowing the seeds of Hope and Heritage, I want to encourage all to keep up their efforts. If California can take on the form of a Phoenix, all others can excel as well.
I am excited to see the relationship building, among fellow Appleseeders, becoming much more common. As I am blessed with the opportunity to meet fellow Appleseeders around the country, the instant "kinship" is obvious, and much more productive than can be imagined. This puts a new twist and prospect on an event like the coming April 19th events. An opportunity for fellow Appleseeders to travel, to meet and help their brothers and sisters in the field! Shame one is forced to only one location on that date :'(
It does a Spirit good to be in the company of Riflemen! While preaching to the choir, it is a great reminder to all, that Appleseed is the cure for the down trodden American Spirit! If being in the presence of Riflemen, of Appleseeders, does not lighten one's heart and Spirit, perhaps they are dead and not knowing it.
My thanks to the whole California crew, those that were at this shoot, those that could not make it, it was a great!
Great shooting James, you are a tremendous example of the quote at the top of the forum.
What a weekend for my first shoot as an IIT!! Atticus is right, having someone thank you for a tip that tightened thier gruop is more satisfying than shooting a 210. Especialy the kids. I believe that we set the record for the most shooters, 59, on a single appleseed firing line. I had the honor of that being my first time as Line Boss. There were a few shooters in my area that were closing in on 210. Chris, Mike and Bob are right there, just have to put it together on the same AQT.
My favorite moment came at the end of the day on Sunday. We did a Liberty AQT, 2400 round in 4 min :~ As I was at the end of the line, you could watch the smoke from the rifles moving through the air with the sun setting in the background. It was inspiring. I just watched it for a few moments and knew that we were making a difference in CA.
Big thank yous to V, funfaler, Savage Shooter, f-stop, Francis Marion, rock-chucker, Wade, Camljr and of course Bob for the encouragement and help that made my first IIT so great. Can't wait for the next one!
DD
Wow,
Is California a great state or what? If anyone had any doubts a weekend like this at the heart of this great state, its capital, would have put them to flight.
A quick count of liability forms shows a weekend attendance of 74 shooters. Reconciling checkin sheets, ah the joys of being a shootboss, gives me 86 shooters! 83 on Saturday and 54 on Sunday (hmm, I know I assigned 59 shooting positions because we had to add a backer... ah the joys of admin duty).
On Saturday we split over 3 ranges to learn the marksmanship skills and assembled in one group at lunch for the history and heritage.
On Sunday we aimed for a single line so that everyone could get that incredible experience of massed shooters on the redcoats! With the fall-off from our 26 one-day only shooters and the expected attrition from Saturday this should have been easy. But incredibly the true inner American Rifleman of our attendees lead to many returning despite the pain, many observers-only on Saturday deciding to sign up and shoot Sunday (including one of our Riflemen! more later), giving us a huge 59 shooter line on Sunday.
Thank goodness I bought the bullhorn!
Once again, folks, California has set some records with this shoot. But this is only the beginning. Lets keep the momentum rolling, lets make the April 18/19th Sacramento California event an even bigger blow out.
At this shoot we tried a couple of new things admin wise. We handed out a survey questionnaire and a contact sheet. Thirty people replied to one or the other or both.
The responses show us that this program is the right solution to the country's problems. Everyone was exceptionally happy with the marksmanship instruction. No-one complained that the lack of a patch was because the instruction was bad. Everyone got it that they needed to persist.
But the thing that stood out, that the volunteers in this organization thrive on, were the comments on how the heritage and history had inspired them. Overwhelmingly, the comments were that having just come for a marksmanship course they left with a better appreciation of the priceless gift of their American Heritage and a determination to see it preserved and handed on. Here (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=5354.msg50655#msg50655) is one example posted here on the forum.
From 86 shooters we produced 6 Riflemen. One of the tradeoffs of a large turnout is that the percentage of Riflemen we can achieve goes down but the number of people we can touch and awaken goes up. Of our 6 rifleman four of them stepped up to becoming IIT's with a determination to help for the April 18/19th shoot. Folks I thank you.
If those folks can PM with their forum names I can direct them to the materials they need to continue their Appleseed Trail, welcome aboard.
Everyone who attended this event can equally help with a Seventh Step effort of their own: Just tell your friends, family and co-workers about the fun you had here this weekend, take them shooting with you, introduce new people to shooting, and then get them to come to the April 18/19th event when we will once again be back here at the Sacramento Valley Shooting Center.
For the folks that didn't quite get their scores together, remember: An American Rifleman persists. Dry firing practice at home, a zero cost exercise, is known to be the best method of achieving Rifleman. Shooting at the range is to confirm the effectiveness of your dry fire training. Attending Appleseeds with new shooting friends is how you reward your inner American Rifleman.
Finally, I'd like everyone to thank our hosts, the Folsom Shooting Club, and the range Manager Jack C. Root for making this such a smooth event. Please bring more people to their range and mention that Appleseed is what brought you there.
Once again, thank you Sacramento, for an incredible, rewarding experience.
Sincerely
Phil
I had a fantastic time this weekend, this was my first Appleseed event, and am very happy that my husband suggested that we go! Thank you to all of our great instructors and IIT's, I learned a tremendous amout this weekend and everyone was knowledgable and helpful! I am hopeful that I can help others as you have helped me as I start on the path to becoming an IIT as well. Thank you to Funfaler, t-stop, Savgshootr, and Francis Marion who all spent time helping me to achieve Rifleman by Sunday! Special thank you to V for running the whole show and brining Appleseed to Northern CA!
I was also encouraged by the turn out, it was exciting to have so many folks there to both experience the history and heritage and the shooting.
I can't wait till the April shoot, though some of my muscles are still protesting :)
Liz N.G.
Hi all:
dunno where to start. So many things to say about this Appleseed event, and all of the people involved.
First off, thanks to everyone for coming! Myfavorite part of being an Appleseeder is getting around to so many parts of the state, being on ranges I never knew existed, and most importantly meeting so many new people...MY kind of people. It was truly my pleasure meeting and working with all of you students. Judging by the quality of marksmanship from this group, there is no question in my mind that there will be a great many rifleman badges handed out in April. Bring it on. I met so many people of great character at this shoot. It was also a pleasure to meet fellow Appleseed instructors for the first time. It is also a distinct pleasure to welcome our new IITs aboard! thank you for stepping up and putting on the orange hat, Liz. I know of very few people who got their rifleman badge on their first Appleseed. Kudos to you for doing just that, AND jumping right in with the 7th step.
thank you for joining us all the way from Kentucky, Funfaler. I really enjoyed the perspectives you added to the 3-Strikes, and for highlighting the CHOICES made by those who came before us, and what those choices really meant. Your presence here made for a better experience for all of us.
Thanks for joining us from Washington, Wade. You come back any time.Great job on your IIT debut, Desert Dog. I'm looking forward to knowing and working with you for a long time to come.
I think we Californians are justifiably proud of what is being accomplished with appleseed in our state. having you folks join us from other states is a nice reminder that appleseed is an AMERICAN effort, and people all across the country are working in the unified purpose of restoring greatness to the entire nation.
It was a stressful (I'm sure) experience for one of our shooters to lose his car keys on the range Saturday afternoon. Individual efforts Saturday evening failed to find them, but 15 seconds of searching by the entire group Sunday morning turned them up. Just a small example of what the combined efforts of a group of people who are unified in purpose can accomplish.
Congratulations to our new riflemen! Persistence and a learning attitude really does make the difference, does it not? You all demonstrated those attributes in spades, and the results speak for themselves.
In closing, thanks to you modest movers and shakers (you know who you are) who set up this shoot and so many others in the first place. You know very well what you are about.
Thanks again, all. Looking forward to seeing you in the future.
R-C
Mo' Pixs?? Was -anybody- shooting a camera out there??? :))
Congratulations to all those who made it to the Sacramento Shoot!
I want to recognise all of you new Riflemen and IIT's as well.
It sounds like you folks had a wonderful time.
Sacramento, alive with the Founders' spirit, thank you for the privilege of spending the weekend in your company, immersed in our common heritage. Where to begin?
Record attendance. Community spirit, highlighted by the Great Key Hunt. Riflemen and Riflewomen persevering to the end, each shooter, each line. Who would have thought that exercising constitutional rights could be so gratifying?
I hope you will share what you learned, about shooting and heritage, with your friends and family.
We saw individuals, groups of friends, families.
The father and his Marine son spending quality time together over the weekend.
Another father, seeing how much fun the kids were having on Saturday, took to the line himself on Sunday with a borrowed 22. And scored Rifleman so many times, he decided sit out some of the AQTs to take photos of his family.
Shooters persevering despite the hazards of unwelcome hot brass lodging in clothing.
A gentleman shooter firing the whole course standing both days because that's the only position his body could take.
And regular folks, by dozens, enjoying and refining the martial art of rifle shooting.
The weekend had to end. People walked away with CMP marksmanship forms signed. Knowing the people of April 19 by name. Able to share what they learned about shooting with others.
That is time well and honorably spent. Thank you all for the privilege.
It always amazes me what a boost I get working an Appleseed. It comes from helping others learn to improve their marksmanship, hearing the history and the different takes that each instructor has on what it means to them, working with a great group of instructors and learning more myself every time I work an Appleseed.
Thanks everyone for attending this. Congratulations to the new Riflemen. Thanks to the new crop of orange hats! You will find teaching Appleseed even more rewarding.
Cheers
Photos taken by my son, mainly on Saturday, can be seen here (http://www.terryism.com/photos/sac_jan).
Thanks to all of you for a great shooting experiance...my AQT was 186, and I am sure with some dry-fireing and practice the next class will be my turn to get the covented patch.
This had to be the most outstanding training I have taken in my 25 years of shooting (and this includes a clinic I took with the Marine Reserve HP team at a CMP shoot). Thanks again, and when the dust settles from the birth of baby #3 next month I will be looking into joining your volunteer ranks!
California just keeps on getting better! I can't wait to get back out there in March. Congrats on a GREAT shoot and some really impressive numbers! (But I must burst your bubble about a record number of shooters on one line. That one is held by TEXAS!!!!!) (I was there to witness it!, 68 shooters as I recall)
Not that I'd EVER compare California with Texas...... ::)
So what about it America? Are we going to keep up with California??? &)
Hello all.
My son Patrick and I loved it!!! We intend to be back for more in April. Many thanks to funfaler and all of the other great instructors. Thanks to all the people who made it possible.
Ed
Yo, FM!!!
Is that a shiny new red hat I see on your head??!!??!! O0 <:)
Looking good, buddy, and very well deserved!!!
Rock on!
LLP
I forgot my camera on Saturday so here's a few from Sunday
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What a great event, and great people, both on and behind the line!
It is exciting to see the program doing great things in CA and all the good folks coming out. I was impressed with the quality of marksmanship by many of the shooters and I suspect if we get these folks back out for the April shoot, we will have a flood of new Riflemen in Central/North CA!
It was good to be in CA, working with this fine crew. Spending time with Riflemen/Appleseeders is what makes an American's soul healthy, being involved in this event is a grand example of a "Rifleman's tune up" O0
I had a great time even without earning my patch. Not that I expected to patch on my first Appleseed, what with a face full of metal plates and "arch bars" from a facial reconstruction a little more than a month before the shoot, that made it feel like I was shooting with a pinch of thumb tacks between the cheek and gum, causing a good cheek weld to be a miserably painful experience. Even so Savage Shooter graciously offered to look over one of my more successful efforts and reported a 190, much more than I expected.
I fully expected to have a good time but I did not expect to meet such dedicated men and women, who made every effort to help my wife and me who both had special needs not readily apparent while 80 other people also vied for the instructors attentions. When my wife needed to take a break because her Fibro condition was causing her a great deal of pain, it was once again Savage Shooter who recognized a need, and with just a few kind words reassured my wife it was OK to take a needed break, helping Julie to relax and continue to enjoy the event with just a few well timed words of encouragement. It was one of those things that may not have seemed like a big deal at the time, but it made a huge difference for my wife.
You're a real sweetheart Cindy and at the very least it would be our pleasure to take you and your guy out to dinner the next time you find yourselves anywhere in the area.
As for me and Julie now? The direct result what we saw at the first Sacramento Appleseed, the passion and compassion, not to mention the wonderfully humorous group a characters running it, we have at least half a dozen people coming with us for April 18th and 19th and I'll be surprised if that number doesn't double given Julies charming disposition when her passions are ignited, and I'll be buying our third 10/22 to set up as another LTR.
We've picked up the buckets and are gladly joining in the bailing party.
I found the "special" cable for my Sony camera, and now have pictures uploaded (53 images)
Appleseed Sacramento CA, January 2009 (http://www.postlogic.com/grant/pix/Appleseed-Jan2009-SacramentoCA) <--------- Download HERE!
I counted 58 shooters on the line Sunday, here's a small shot - for full size, follow the link.
For the statisticians:
I haven't the data for all three ranges on Saturday yet but here's the Redcoat data for the one line on Sunday
Morning Evening
400 yards 5 13
300 yards 10 4
200 yards 6 13
100 yards 16 14
cooks 14 8
"Officers" 9 11
Cleared 1 2
One of our shooters, Aleeta, listened to my talk about shooting Redcoats Rifleman style at the morning count when one of our shooters cleared.
For those who maybe don't know.
A "cleared" redcoat is one with 3 shots in each silhouette and one in the head box.
A Rifleman Redcoat is one shot with 100 yards standing, transition to sitting for the 200, transition to prone for the 300 and stay in prone for the 400 and HS - all to be done in less than one minute! You do it this way when clearing them becomes too easy!
So in addition to those two cleared redcoats in the evening there was a Rifleman Redcoat with only one shot dropped on the 200! Aleeta is a very impressive shooter.
One of the evening cleared redcoats was also the morning clearer - nice consistent shooting.
There are clearly men and women in central California "who know very well what they are about". I look forward to meeting many more of them in April.
"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. That which we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly. Heaven knows how to put a price upon its goods and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated."
Thomas Paine - "The Crisis" 1775
Hope is coming to California. Indeed its already here and blossoming. Its called Appleseed.
Uhhhmmmmm, "Officers"? Are these the ones who get shot first? **)
Congratulations to all who made last weekend in California such a tremendous success. We have had excellent help from California at our Boulder City, Nevada shoots. We couldn't have done them without the dedicated Aplleseeders who live and breath the Program. We thank them all sincerely.
When I lived in the high desert of California, I despaired of ever seeing a sane firearms policy come from the Legislature. With all of the shoots and success you all are having, California may be saved yet. I hope so! There are so many good people there, with Appleseeders to provide the leadership, I visualize a turnaround in political activity. Keep up the good work and accelerate it. California is an example for us in Utah and we intend to follow it!
Will (BC)
I just want to say "Thanks" to everyone involved. What a great group! Special thanks to Funfaler who provided us with "shuttle service" to/from our hotel (well out of his way) when my car keys were missing.
As a first time shooter, I certainly know I have my work cut out for me, but I did see significant improvement due to the excellent instruction. Hope to see you all again in April.
Wanted to say thank you to all the instructors. It was a great weekend and I learned alot. Especially wanted to thank Wade, Cindy, and Cameron as they spent alot of time trying to help me make rifleman (didn't quite make it, but hopefully in April).
Well, it's been a week since the shoot in Sac.
Sorry for the delayed post buy I've been busy recruiting for the April shoot.
The training we all received is well worth the price paid, and the added bonus of some history lessons is just icing on the cake.
The instructors are comitted to making riflemen/riflewoman out of all of us using step by step instruction on position building and making a good shot, every time.
It's easy to see that the instructors truely believe in what their doing and their enthusiasm in contaigous.
The appleseed is all about effort=results. If you show up with a good attitude, zeroed and functional rifle you can spend 2 days improving your skills with no distractions. Practice is the key.
I had a great time, met good people and learned more in 2 days, than in 2 months of research and practice. The 25yd. shooting gives great feedback (the target never lies).
I'll be back for sure in April with my wife and 2 or 3 friends.
When my shooting buddies heard about what I had learned and that my shooting skills had improved I think they felt left out. So they will be there to defend their shooting honor.
I thought long and hard about being a IIT, but I'm a shooter not a teacher, (yet), so I'm going to stick to recruiting for now.
The appleseed concept is a sound and worth while one. If the program grows to the size we'd all like to see it could change the face of the U.S.A. for the better. Much better.
Also When I made rifleman I got a coveted Bob210 signature on my aqt. Maybe I'll put it on Ebay.
Thanks to all the instructors for their time and effort and thanks to Sac. shooting center for having us.
Maybe some of the locals might want to have a mini appleseed in between appleseed dates.
My wife friends and I will be at Sac. a few times before the next shoot for rifle zeroing and position practice.
Hat's off to the organizers keep up the good work!
See you in April
Mike
(polygunner)
Hey Mike,
Welcome to the Forum.
As far as Instructing goes, there is time for that. Maybe in the future you will be in a position that you can join us. We'd be lucky to have you. In the meantime, keep doing what you are doing.
See you on the AS Trail.
~SS
Take a look at that AQT folks.
First half of the second stage completely missing, five shots down, a lowly 24 score.
Did this Rifleman give up? Did he say, no point shooting the rest then?
No, the only shot that matters to a Rifleman is the one he's about to take.
Shoot every shot rapidfire, with your rifleman's cadence, inside your rifleman's bubble.
Persist.
Great job PG.
"Take a look at that AQT folks.
First half of the second stage completely missing, five shots down, a lowly 24 score."
Those holes can be found on my buddys target, to my left.
That seemed to be my biggest problem. The last two targets on Sat, I did the same thing.
It happens after reloads. I reload then get a sight pic. if it's on target I assume it's my target and shoot away. Oops.
That's why there's a box of ammo with a number on it in front of the M1-A. It helped a lot but not 100%. ++)
Fun,fun,fun
pg
Well done, Polygunner!
Notice the LTR he has made- with an M14 stock.
Excellent rig.
Quote from: V on January 25, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Take a look at that AQT folks.
First half of the second stage completely missing, five shots down, a lowly 24 score.
Did this Rifleman give up? Did he say, no point shooting the rest then?
No, the only shot that matters to a Rifleman is the one he's about to take.
Shoot every shot rapidfire, with your rifleman's cadence, inside your rifleman's bubble.
Persist.
Great job PG.
A beautiful target to be sure!
Well done indeed.
A lot of pople have trouble with the second stage.
This is proof to anyone who needs it that you can have one poor stage and still do very well.
Like V says, "Shoot every shot rapidfire, with your rifleman's cadence, inside your rifleman's bubble."
Words to live by!
And don't worry about not taking on the Orange Hat of an ITT, there is a role for every talent and aptitude here. Just pick one for your self and go for it, any and all help is welcome.
Hey DesertRat,
Welcome to the forum.
In your heart and mind you are already a Rifleman. I have faith that you will make the score too. If your front sight had not loosened up on you, I'm certain that you would have made the score on Sunday. (I won't mention the target thing)
Remember to dry fire and get into the positions between now and April 19th weekend.
~SS
Long over due, been down with the flu, but I did want to provide some feedback.
This was my second shoot, I went to one in Fallen NV last year.
General observations.
Things I liked:
-great location
-lots of instructors
-Fun to have the powder gun at lunch time
-great using the rifle stock for the demos
-great motivational leadership
Things I think were done better in NV
-the history was broken into three parts, and told one strike in the morning of the first day, second strike was later in that day, and the final strike was on the second day. I really preferred that format, it got me thinking about what I was doing and why early, and slowly filled in as the weekend progressed.
-smaller group, this allowed a faster pace. When ever you get a large group together, the entire group must move at the pace of the slowest person. I really found the pace slow, even my buddy, to whom this was all new felt we were moving slowly. I was always asking because I know the second time round things would seem slower, but my feelings were confirmed.
-Too much time spent on shooting squares and not enough shooting AQTs,
Suggestions:
-for large groups, break them into smaller working groups, I know this will be somewhat limited by what the range will permit. Also consider separating the group based on those who feel that they want to be worked hard and those that do not. In NV, I very much had the feeling that I was being pressed to move faster, and worked harder, I really liked that, it is why I was there, not everyone wants that, but that was part of the fun for me.
-consider 1st time appleseed shooters separated from repeat shooters, would eliminate some of the pace issues
-set a time limit on every action, you started to do this on the second day, and things started to move along better, if there is no time limit and/or the is no consequences for being slow, then you are doomed move too slow. IF you set a standard and move at that pace and if someone misses a shooting session because they were not ready, they will be ready next time.....
-Start the weekend on time, set the standard for timelyness right out of the box, anyone who is late misses out, and has to wait, I would suggest, give the opening talk at 9am, if someone misses it, then do it again for those who were late, at say 10am, if someone misses the 9am, they have to wait and will realize that there is a expectation to be on time, and execute with respect to time.
Hope some of these ideas help.....
Jim
Thanks for the feed back Addiction.
We love to hear both pros and cons as we are commited to improvement.
Say, you seem like a very perceptive fellow, any interest in taking your commitment to the next level?
Hey addiction,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for your feedback. It was a pleasure to be in Sacramento and work that event. Thank You for coming out.
We are a "work in progress" and can certainly use the feedback in order to improve.
Glad you are feeling better.
~SS
Thanks addiction.
The idea of two groups is interesting.
My wife and I were on the slow side, both of us having medical issues to contend with and both being first timers, and with the size of the group we often found ourselves asking each other what the last command was.
We are both working on our flexibility and using dry firing. I'm lucky to have a long hallway with a large mirror at the end (very 70s) so I can lay out prone in the kitchen and dry fire at the target on top of the stove effectively 79 feet away. That should keep the two story neighbors from worrying what I'm doing with the rifle out in my back yard. I'm still hurting a bit when I try to get my elbow directly under the stock but we are making progress!
BD,
Great job!! You will be ready for the next event. O0
Are you making the trip to Fresno or are you waiting until Apr 18-19 back there at the Sacramento Valley Gun Club in Ione?
You will know when the elbow is far enough under the rifle by watching the sights.
Hope you are healing and Jules is well. It was truly an honor to meet you both.
~SS
Having had sleep apnea so bad, for so long, I've learned to set my priorities.
I'd love to be in Fresno (I never thought I'd say that :-\) to get my riflemen badge, but I think I can do more good making contacts closer to home. The sooner we have an active home team that can support itself the sooner we can take this up north.
Texas is doing a great job, we need to keep bailing to stay ahead. ^-^
Just wanted to say, great job on stepping up for the Turlock gun show...
You are an asset to Appleseed... also thanks to the others who promoted and attended.
Also wanted to say, great pictures of Sunday there... O0
Thanks!
I had a great time, and I'm looking forward to Sacramento Gun Show. I'm finding preaching to the choir suits me.
Quote from: BaldDragn on February 09, 2009, 03:47:41 AM
Thanks!
I had a great time, and I'm looking forward to Sacramento Gun Show. I'm finding preaching to the choir suits me.
You must have missed the bit about being a missionary to the cannibals then <:)
Quote from: V on February 09, 2009, 11:11:14 AM
You must have missed the bit about being a missionary to the cannibals then <:)
I tried, but found no cannibals at the gun show.
But once upon a time I married a pretty little liberal who didn't really care for guns ::)
Persevere Riflemen, persevere! ;D
But once upon a time I married a pretty little liberal who didn't really care for guns
O0 <:) O0
Just tell us how you "fixed" that little "problem"....... @) :~
LLP
I see he let that sleeping dog lay.... smart man. O0
Heh!! I think he's been married for "awhile"....... O0 **) @@)
You'll see...... :D ;D :))
While surfing youtube for things Appleseed I came across this tidbit of stage two on the third line with several shooters, Bob 210, Rock Chucker (line boss), and my legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JjrwnSa_yc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JjrwnSa_yc)