I am a newbie and plan on attending an Appleseed in September. I am training with several rifles. I have shot most of my life and served in the Army. I am also an active IDPA participate.
All that being said I need help with establishing a good check weld. Should I mark a spot on my stock with some tape, foam etc. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks in advance.
Not sure what your stock looks like or what type of rifle you are shooting. Have you heard of "turkey necking"? Once you get into position (any of the three, prone, sitting/kneeling or standing) you'll need to stretch your neck out forward as you lay your cheek against the stock. Your neck will only stretch so far (although as you practice it your neck may get more flexible and stretch a little farther. The idea is getting into the habit of "turkey necking" (since your neck will only stretch so far) will always put your cheek down on the stock at the same spot (for each of the three positions) which results in your eye being in the same spot behind the rear sight each time (very important if you want your groups to go to the same place each time).
I have a scope on my M1A. I had to put one of those lace on cheek rests on it. I'm in the "right" spot when the corner of the cheek piece presses into my cheek at the back of my upper canine tooth (right side). On my M1 the right side of my nose touches the last joint in my thumb where it goes over the top of the stock. Yours may well be different based on your rifle, your stock and you body but you need to find what is comfortable and then make it a consistent part of your positions.
Thanks for the advice! I tried a little shooting this afternoon with my 10/22 and worked on my check weld and noticed an improvment quickly. I was having problems with my zero wandering.
I know this is a little off topic, however what kind of accuracy can you expect from a stock 10/22 with factory sights?
Never really shot mine with the factory sights. Put an old Weaver scope on it first and hit whatever I wanted out to 50 yds. I put tech sights on it and even with my poor (up close) eyesight making the front sight blur in and out I can shoot 5/8" five shot groups at 25 yds. I haven't shot it that much with the tech sights but I like it. Believe me, sling it up, get behind the rear sight and you'll be trying to find the safety on your center fire rifle rather than the 10/22. I'm not the only one that has done that the sight picture really helps that little .22 substitute for your big rifle.
Thanks again! I was getting a little under and over one inch at 25meters, however I would have approximetly 2-3 flyers out of 10 shot groups. I am using Remington Thunder Bolts. I don't know if it is me pulling or just ammo not capable? I was cheating by shooting from a bench, however. Don't have sling or a sight yet. Will have a sling by this weekend and I guess when ever the the peep sights are available I will order one.
Basically, the only thing I did to improve the sights was black out the back sight. I am also going to try to clean up the trigger and action this weekend. Thanks again for the advice.
shaky-jake those 10-22s can be fun\addictive can't they? I love my tech-sights they help alot! I don't know if you have seen www.rimfirecentral.com or not but they have a lot of good info on the 10/22 rifle and others as well. Good luck on your shooting and stay safe.
Thunderbolts were my favorite .22 ammo 25 years ago. However, in my 10/22 Remington Golden Bullets shoot much better. Buy a box of each of several different brands/types of .22 ammo and try them in your rifle. Every gun is different. What shoots good in one rifle may not shoot well in another one of the same type so try different types in your rifle to find out what shoots best for you. Good luck, practice for the Appleseed - get a rifleman's guide from Fred.
I plan on being ready for the Appleseed in NC in Sept. I would like to attend the whole week however, I am a full time dad and that makes it tough. I am planning on order some targets tommorow from Fred. Right now I am just using 1inch dots at 25meters. I must admit that the dots get real small at that distance. Tonight I had to spray paint some bigger dots, as I was losing light I could not see them.
Does anyone have any experince with the 22cal converison kits for AR15?
Thanks again for the advice.
The ciener kits are worth the money, heck they pay for themselves in just a couple of trips to the range.
Thanks again for the advice. How accurate are they? Are does that depend upon the rifle it is being installed in? Also any advice on the cheapest place to order one?
As M1A4ME says you need to try several brands, find the one that shoots best in your unit. Yes it does depend on your rifle but an AR is normally pretty accurate. You might ask Nickle about the places to get them, but your local shop should know where.
You can get them direct from Ciener.
http://www.22lrconversions.com/atch-pg.htm (http://www.22lrconversions.com/atch-pg.htm)
Thanks for all the advice. One last question does any onw know if the sights are same between the 223 and 22? In other words do you have to readjust the sights when you change between the to?
I got my ciener kit from Cheaper than Dirt. I think it was about $140 but it was a Christmas gift. Check out Cheaper than Dirt. By the way, my CAR 15 shoots reeaaallllyyy gooooood with the .22 conversion kit. It oughta be illegal.
Just saw your last question. I've seen a .22 conversion kit fired in to standard barrel AR15's and at 25 meters the .22's and the .223's shoot to the same place. In my CAR the .22's shoot 3" low at 25 meters vs. the .223 ammo.
Thanks again. I am going to Chearperthandirt and maybe order one by the end of the week. I feel like it will be step in the right direction getting ready for an Appleseed. I have toyed buying one for my pistols, however I reload now and I was always felt like learning to control recoil is very important and never did for those reasons.
All that being said I have not decided were to stick with my AR or FAL for the upcoming Appleseed. With the cost of ammo the 223 seems very attractive right now.
QuoteI know this is a little off topic, however what kind of accuracy can you expect from a stock 10/22 with factory sights?
http://www.rwva.org/yabbse/index.php?topic=2790.0
scroll down to the target photo approx. 3/4 from the top.
That was with a 10/22 carbine that had collected dust in a closet for about 7-8 years. Owner didn't have sling swivel studs, so someone improvised a loop sling for him using a piece of wire coathanger looped around the front of the barrel/forend.
IIRC, his wife shot JB's loaner 10/22, and quite well, too.
Read through these for proper cheek weld before you go to RBC. :)