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Road to Rifleman => Skill Sets of Shooting => Topic started by: m1agsr on September 15, 2016, 01:29:06 PM

Title: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: m1agsr on September 15, 2016, 01:29:06 PM
I was poking around the fourms and saw an old post which lead me down a rabbit hole. I ended up finding something that seems fun to work towards. I want to get an NRA patch or two.

http://mqp.nra.org/documents/pdf/education/training/marksmanship/qualbook.pdf

Going down to page 22, i'm not sure what they are talking about w/ 40% or better.. 50% or better. ... 40% of what? Getting on paper? 40% of max total possible points? etc etc.

I plan on using an m1a, regular sites (no scope), at 200 yards (actual 200).

I'm goign to post this in MDShooters also.
Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: Mike Nollett on September 15, 2016, 01:45:22 PM
The percentage refers to your aggregate score. For instance in an 80 round National Match course of fire you can score as high as 800. This would be all (80) shots for score in the 10 ring. The percentage would be 100%. If you were to say, put all (80) shots in the 5 ring you would be at 40%.  After firing 250 shots for record (an aggregate from multiple matches of course) your percentage determines your qualification.

I am not sure if I cleared that up or not.
Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: m1agsr on September 15, 2016, 01:50:47 PM
let me rephrase in my own words... but i think I'm with you.

i get the x% of y max now.. however it's not just one set of Z rounds total.. it's several sets of Z?

100% (1 set of Z)
80% (1 set of Z)
95% (1 set of Z)
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91% aggregate, final... yes?
Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: TOMINCT on September 15, 2016, 02:06:30 PM
 Looks like as Mike N. had noted, percentage of the total score.

The 80%+ number sited would not be an expert score in NRA high power though, it was 89% last I knew, could have changed though.

Fred had an equivalent as a Rifleman score, 420 out of 500 on a 50 round NMC. Rack grade rifle and ball ammo. Fairly challenging but doable.
Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: jmdavis on September 15, 2016, 02:22:48 PM
Just go shoot some local matches. They count for this program with witness requirements and Shooting 84% on two matches puts you in the Distinguished Expert Category of the Winchester program. Doing it on your own requires 10 repetitions.  However, 84% is the Sharpshooter Category for High Power. If you put the time in you will quickly find yourself losing interest in the Winchester Program and wanting the challenge and comraderie of shooting real matches.

Go to a local match with 60 rounds of ammo (if it is a 500). Zero your rifle and shoot it. Go home and dryfire, practice your positions and really learn your trigger. Then, go back and do it again and again, and soon you will find yourself a Sharpshooter, which equals the Distinguished Expert of the NRA program.

The only thing that stands between most people and proficiency with their rifle is gumption. Talking will never get you there. You have to think, have some dedication and actually do it.

NRA Highpower classifications:

Marksman: Below 83.99%  419 or lower on a 50 shot match 671 or lower on an 80 shot match
Sharpshooter: 84%-88.99% 420 or higher on a 50 shot match 672 or higher on an 80 shot match
Expert: 89%-93.99% 445 or higher on a 50 shot match 712 or higher on an 80 shot match
Master: 94%-96.99% 470 or higher on a 50 shot match 752 or higher on an 80 shot match
High Master: 97%-100% 485 or higher on a 50 shot match 776 or higher on an 80 shot match



Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: jmdavis on September 15, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: TOMINCT on September 15, 2016, 02:06:30 PM
Looks like as Mike N. had noted, percentage of the total score.

The 80%+ number sited would not be an expert score in NRA high power though, it was 89% last I knew, could have changed though.

Fred had an equivalent as a Rifleman score, 420 out of 500 on a 50 round NMC. Rack grade rifle and ball ammo. Fairly challenging but doable.

400 is actually 80% and the target is smaller for standing, sitting and rapid prone. If someone can shoot a 420 they are at the sharpshooter level, and that would be 84%.
Title: Re: High Power Rifle Qualification (NRA)
Post by: passinthru on December 26, 2016, 05:11:41 PM
My son has qualified expert in NRA High Power with his dedicated AR.
Just for fun on Thanksgiving when we were visiting him in the country, he set up his
Savage bolt action .22 with scope and we shot at a 10 inch metal circle at 300 yards.
Had to adjust for windage some then commenced to listening for the "ping".
He hit 7 out of 10, I could only muster 5 out of 10. 
We are both retired Appleseeders.