Its not new information but its a different presentation. Some of us, me included, may find Fred's guide to becoming a Rifleman a little daunting. Lots of words, tons and tons of information. You may also be or know those people who just learn better with some pictures and fewer words at a time. You may also know those people who are thinking about Appleseed but just need a little motivation. I put this thing together to use at my unit (the Army runs off Powerpoint) I hope you guys enjoy it. I am also up for any suggestions or fixes. I also posted up the Article referenced to in the presentation
Great stuff folks.
I know I plan on using some of this, both in my Guard unit, and out on the Appleseed Trail.
Good stuff.
These will make a great presentation at Board meetings for setting up Appleseeds at host gun ranges! Thanks!
I got some suggestions in PM's and have most of those done. I will add whatever I get, as this is for the group. I will upload the final Copy in a few days to give everyone a chance to drop a note.
Ok, here is the Latest and greatest. The big guns weighed in on it and here it is
Very nice. Thanks. Any updates in the last 60 days?
Sheepdog
US CAV,
I know Fred would prefer....Fire the RIFLE without moving it... etc. We try not to use the words "weapon, firearm, gun, etc." It is simply a Rifle.
Otherwise, very nice. I would like to use this at my club.
EEL
Guys, "US CAV" is military. The presentation he created (and well-done it was, too!) was prepared for military use, not for Appleseed use - hence the "non-Appleseed" terms.
It should not be used until it is reformatted to Appleseed.
Since I understand US CAV is currently deployed, one of us will have to do it.
Any takers?
I'll attempt this.
I just reviewed the version posted on Oct. 23, and saw a few places where 'weapon' was used. I'll switch those to 'rifle'.
I saw one spelling mistake, 'foward' instead of 'forward'. I'll fix that.
The last slide has a very large font, and says
RIFLEM
EN
Instead of RIFLEMEN.
I'll look at each slide carefully for anything else.
I should be able to get this done before Feb. 14. I'll try to get at least one pass done before Feb. 7.
I've made one pass through. A couple of spelling corrections, a few punctuation changes (you'll note I didn't say corrections on the punctuation ;D)
If anyone sees anything else that should be changed, holler, and I'll get on it.
(modified to fix typo in my own post. Sheesh. It was underlined in red ... dunno how I missed it.)
I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here or anything.
In my reading of everything trying to prepare for my first Appleseed, I came across this thread here. I opened the power point presentations so I could read and hopefully learn. Some of the slides.... well... were hurtful trying to read. There were so many words on some slides that the words all blended in together and stuff (at least in my head). I had to strain to read certain ones, and had to read those several times to understand what they were saying.
I hope y'all don't mind, but.... well I tweaked it some.
I didn't change words, just fonts, colors, backgrounds and layouts. (okay maybe a little grammar and punctuation.... ;))
What do you think?
Looks good.
Oh phew. I was nervous y'all might get upset that a newbie went ahead and did that.
I'm so excited! Can't wait til April 18th!! ;D
Newbie or not, you're bailing.
Now, one thing you could go back and fix is the one frame that has me listed as VTANG. It's really VTARNG. Not your doing, but a small thing that should be fixed. I'm Army Guard (ARNG), not Air Guard (ANG). The guy that made the original didn't know the correct acronym, as he's Regular Army (and in Afghanistan right now).
Very nice work. A few suggestions
For slide 2, I think a left justification is better. Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.
In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.
Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!
So, what Ivy? I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....
Quote from: Nickle on March 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Newbie or not, you're bailing.
bailing? bailing on what? :P
Quote from: Nickle on March 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Now, one thing you could go back and fix is the one frame that has me listed as VTANG. It's really VTARNG. Not your doing, but a small thing that should be fixed. I'm Army Guard (ARNG), not Air Guard (ANG). The guy that made the original didn't know the correct acronym, as he's Regular Army (and in Afghanistan right now).
I'll fix it today and get it back up. Anything else?
Quote from: SkyDaver on March 26, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Very nice work. A few suggestions
For slide 2, I think a left justification is better. Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.
In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.
Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!
So, what Ivy? I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....
For a presentation to signify topic changes each "section" should have a different background color scheme, while the overall presentation should have a color theme. So, first section is the "riflemen" set (green), second section is the "npoa" set (red), third section is the six steps (different green), fourth section is rapid fire and summary (red - with effects).
I could make solid colors on each section, and I could make them any color you want, really, but a good presentation has transition between sections. (I've been an executive assistant in Fortune 100 companies for years.... this is what I did for a living - making "pretty" presentations (among other things). :) Penn grad or not, it was "fine" before - now it's "pretty" ^-^ ;D >:D )
I will play with background colors vs. text colors a bit more and see what is visually easier to read. If you have color suggestions, let me know. I could do greys and blues straight through. I like the army-green colors, and I like the red emphasis when you get to rapid fire, but that's just my preference - I'll put whatever color y'all want.
Bailing, as in helping bail out the good ship "USA" (it's sinking).
In other words, a good thing.
Excellent work!
Oh, hey. At IIT Bootcamp, I remember step 3 in the six steps being called "respiratory pause". I notice most of the other steps say somewhere on the slide "This is known as... (XYZ)" Can I put "This is known as Respiratory Pause" on slide #18 for step 3?
And, SkyDaver, I just did slide 2 as left justified...... hmm.... I don't like it so much. Are you sure you want it that way??!!! Positive?!
Quote from: ivyleague28477 on March 27, 2009, 10:50:56 AM
Can I put "This is known as Respiratory Pause" on slide #18 for step 3?
Go for it.
Quote from: SkyDaver on March 26, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Very nice work. A few suggestions
For slide 2, I think a left justification is better. Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.
In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.
Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!
So, what Ivy? I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....
For a presentation to signify topic changes each "section" should have a different background color scheme, while the overall presentation should have a color theme. So, first section is the "riflemen" set (green), second section is the "npoa" set (red), third section is the six steps (different green), fourth section is rapid fire and summary (red - with effects).
I could make solid colors on each section, and I could make them any color you want, really, but a good presentation has transition between sections. (I've been an executive assistant in Fortune 100 companies for years.... this is what I did for a living - making "pretty" presentations (among other things). :) Penn grad or not, it was "fine" before - now it's "pretty" ^-^ ;D >:D )
I will play with background colors vs. text colors a bit more and see what is visually easier to read. If you have color suggestions, let me know. I could do greys and blues straight through. I like the army-green colors, and I like the red emphasis when you get to rapid fire, but that's just my preference - I'll put whatever color y'all want.
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I liked the Army green background, as well. It was the red that I found a little tough on my eyes. The multicolored background washed out the text too much for me.
I understand and like the color transition between sections.
The justification on slide 2 is just my personal preference, if you think it's better centered, go for it.
It is much better looking now thanks to your efforts; we don't need to hash this out to the final shade. Perfect is the enemy of good
Quote from: SkyDaver on March 27, 2009, 11:24:24 AM
Perfect is the enemy of good
Amen brother.
Okay here's another edit. Let me know what y'all think. I changed the NPOA red to a different shade, and the text to a better contrasting shade. On the Rapid Fire and Summary pages, I changed the text color to a bit different for better contrast as well. Hopefully that helps. (And, Nickle, I fixed your title.)
If there's other presentations or materials you want me to tinker with, let me know. All I do all day is sit at my restaurant and hope I get a few customers, so I'm sitting here not doing much and would be happy to help.
I like it! O0
Just wanted to say thanks for polishing the powerpoint. I made it for my guys before we deployed and posted it here so ya'll could finish it for Appleseed use.
QuoteAll I do all day is sit at my restaurant and hope I get a few customers, so I'm sitting here not doing much and would be happy to help.
Ivyleague, I've been watching this thread, and thanks for the perfect segway into the following:
Because now it's time for me to step in and ask you energetic guys, "What are you really doing for the program?"
And "When are you going to start doing it?"
Have you checked out the EPT program?
Wanna bet that will make a bigger impact on the future of AS than a powerpoint program that, as far as I can see, has seen too little real use? (Anyone count the number of times it's actually been used? Yeah, I know the answer: "Not enough!" :) )
I'm not trying to upset any applecarts here.
You guys are obviously smart, capable, and I have no doubt you'd like to see AS successful.
If so, if that really is the fact, PM ff, and tell him you have been shanghai-ed to come over and help out.
Isn't that why all of us are here? To make this thing work?
I'd like to see you guys make EPT really
rock!
I have no doubt you can do it.
@)
PS: In your spare time, figure out how we can push the ppp and get more use out of it - but only in your spare time... O0
The real use will be at (among other things) gun shows, where we have a laptop running, talking about the program.
Quote from: Nickle on March 27, 2009, 04:25:43 PM
The real use will be at (among other things) gun shows, where we have a laptop running, talking about the program.
Really? Gee, I was thinking this would be a teaching aid at some point during the shoots. *shrugs* go figure. :)
Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Have you checked out the EPT program?
Not yet. I eyeballed that thread the other day, and thought since I didn't know what it was or what any of that meant (yet) that perhaps I wasn't qualified enough to PM ff yet. :-\
Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Wanna bet that will make a bigger impact on the future of AS than a powerpoint program that, as far as I can see, has seen too little real use? (Anyone count the number of times it's actually been used? Yeah, I know the answer: "Not enough!" :) )
I'm sure it probably will...... I'll PM ff if you think "anyone" can do it. It would have helped me to PM ff several days ago - if on the thread there was a bit more explanation as to what EPT program does and/or entails. I'm the type of person that, if I don't feel qualified, I won't even ask more details.... :-[
Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
I'm not trying to upset any applecarts here.
You guys are obviously smart, capable, and I have no doubt you'd like to see AS successful.
The only thing upsetting the applecart is that you keep calling me a guy :P ;D ;)
Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
If so, if that really is the fact, PM ff, and tell him you have been shanghai-ed to come over and help out.
Isn't that why all of us are here? To make this thing work?
I'd like to see you guys make EPT really rock!
I have no doubt you can do it.
@)
Will do, Fred. Thanks. :)
Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
PS: In your spare time, figure out how we can push the ppp and get more use out of it - but only in your spare time... O0
More pictures of hot chicks with guns in it??? ;D @)
EDIT: PM sent.
QuoteMore pictures of hot chicks with guns in it??? ;D @)
This is why commercials work so well,... no? ;) O0 **)
All is fair, thus and so.... ;)
Quote from: LavaTech on March 27, 2009, 05:43:09 PM
QuoteMore pictures of hot chicks with guns in it??? ;D @)
This is why commercials work so well,... no? ;) O0 **)
All is fair, thus and so.... ;)
Dude, I'm tellin' ya, it'd work great! Hell, I'm sure we have at least one dozen attractive women in Appleseed, no? Calendar of Appleseed ladies??? Shots of chicks in high heels, tight jeans, white tee shirts, and rifles! That'd get the attention of at least half the sheeple men :P LOL!!
Hell, I bet if ya held a contest among the ladies, you'd get plenty of picture submissions :P :) I bet Fred would be HAPPY to judge. @)
You don't have to convince me, after all you've just shown me that I know that you know that I know that you know how....... :D **) **)
I just ran an hour's worth of ideas past my husband, and he's excited already.
So, how would I contact any/all women who have actually achieved Riflemen status? Is there an email list one of the moderators has by any chance? (pretty please)
I don't want to give away too many of my ideas just yet, but I'm thinking I would want a calendar of women who have specifically already achieved Rifleman. I am hoping to send an email to all to let them know what I'm thinking of, and see if any are interested. :)
If not, I'm sure I could find a few good friends to pose... I'm just thinking marketing would be more effective with the "real" women of Appleseed!!!! After all, they've got plenty to be proud of!
There's a "Women of Appleseed" thread going, post in it, and ask for what you would like. http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=4577.0 (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=4577.0)
We have female Instructors and IIT's, as well as various staff members, and that's a start, along with any ladies that have acheived Rifleman status.
As to the PP Presentation, it's very useful at gunshows, and any venue where we're looking to motivate people. I used it with my Guard unit, during a Marksmanship class. It HAS been used.
Quote from: Nickle on March 28, 2009, 06:58:53 AM
There's a "Women of Appleseed" thread going, post in it, and ask for what you would like. http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=4577.0 (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=4577.0)
:-\ Yeah, I was just thinking - how often do the ladies actually get on this site and read or post? As I've been browsing the past few days trying to learn what I can before coming to my first shoot, I'm not seeing much in the way of *frequent* female visitors.
My other thought is to wade through that thread and collect female usernames and send a PM to all the females - but I've sent at least 3 PM's to others and haven't received response, so I'm wondering how useful that is... Hmm. All those things that make you go HMM
Quote from: Nickle on March 28, 2009, 06:58:53 AM
We have female Instructors and IIT's, as well as various staff members, and that's a start, along with any ladies that have acheived Rifleman status.
Which is PERfect for what I'm thinking of. Think of this: one of the female instructors... leather skirt, high heels... riding crop in hand. Caption says: "I SAID - STOP DRAGGING WOOD!" @) I'm sure we could have all kinds of fun with different quotes like that. Take a peek at the "snuggling with my wife" thread, and you'll start to see what I've got in mind. "SquEEEze the trigger!" ;D Oh I've got lots of ideas - along with poses and everything - in mind for this. Now I just need the girls on board. ;) Y'all should be naggin' your hot wives to start posing and you should start snappin' pics! >:D C'mon, what man wouldn't wanna say "My wife is Ms. September in the Appleseed Calendar!"
I'm thinkin', if we get this done *nice* and by late October or early November, we might be able to get ads out there in Shotgun News, Soldier of Fortune Magazine, American Handgunner, Guns and Ammo, etc. and sell them at a decent price for Christmas gifts and raise money for Appleseed. (Never mind the marketing appeal! It's like two benefits in one!)
Quote from: Nickle on March 28, 2009, 06:58:53 AM
As to the PP Presentation, it's very useful at gunshows, and any venue where we're looking to motivate people. I used it with my Guard unit, during a Marksmanship class. It HAS been used.
Excellent. I was thinking during a class too, which is why I was compelled to tweak it. I was sitting here trying to read it as a student, and when my eyes were freaking out a bit, I started thinking - if I were in class and reading this for the first time, I'd probably not be able to absorb all the information in it. Don't mind my OCD. :) It's certainly not a reflection of other's prior work. Glad y'all like it too.
I wonder - at gunshows, is this a bit *long* of a PPP to be using? I mean, I've been to gun shows before, and the go-ers are usually browsing around and passing tables by. They only want to stop at any given table for at most 15 minutes - see what that table has, get as much info as possible, and move along on their way. In my experience as an exec assistant, I helped prep info, presentations and layout for the booths at the annual trade shows. Same thing, no? Would y'all maybe want something a bit shorter and attention getting for the purposes of a gun show? I could work on something tomorrow and Tuesday and put it up here (or in some other thread if you think there's a better one).
Quote from: ivyleague28477 on March 28, 2009, 02:08:50 AM
I'm sure I could find a few good friends to pose...
OK, ivy, you just have set yourself a real job - get those friends of yours to an Appleseed, so we can make that calendar a calendar of Riflewomen!
Then, if you do that, you'll have females who you can PM and they will reply. Say, what's going on with our females on this board? I can see a series of photos (yep, I'm stogy) in that old NRA ad campaign "I'm the NRA!" Not every lady on here has to do the 'vamp' routine (hey, I'm just askin' - you girls work it out!).
We could even have TWO calendars - one for the current aging crowd of old guys in Appleseed - call it "Rifle-Qualified Grandmas of Appleseed!" or "Grandma Riflemen!" - that last is sorta catchy, right? I KNEW you would agree! :) ;D
And then a second calendar with the tight skirts/jeans, etc, so we can see if we can "youth up" the site a bit. Bet ARC would order three... >:D
I can hear Mrs Cal now. :-[ " You're not instructing at any shoot where those Riflebabes are gonna be at!" !@#)
LOL. But seriously you've got a good idea. Go for it, Ivy! O0
Yep, you absotively, posilutely gotta run with it....!...Oooops - hate it when the weekend pint o'bitter barleypop does that! **) **)
Seriously - you know where there's a WHOLE BOATLOAD of Apppleseeders ready to help in any way they can, and it sounds like you've got this grand idea by the teeth already, so just tear into it! O0 O0 :~ :~
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Quote from: UwharrieTrail40 on March 28, 2009, 06:37:54 PM
...Except maybe, have them dance in a cage to get more male recruits? %) >:D
"Them"?
"Them"? Eric, these are fellow Appleseeders you're talking about, not aliens from space - and some of 'em - maybe all - can knock your hat off at 300, 400, maybe even 500 yards...
A little respect, please.
There's a reason, when part of a couple, they're referred to as "the Better Half"...
@)
Quote from: Fred on March 28, 2009, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: UwharrieTrail40 on March 28, 2009, 06:37:54 PM
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"Them"?
"Them"?
Eric, these are fellow Appleseeders you're talking about, not aliens from space - and some of 'em - maybe all - can knock your hat off at 300, 400, maybe even 500 yards...
A little respect, please.
There's a reason, when part of a couple, they're referred to as "the Better Half"...
@)
Sorry Fred, no disrespect meant.
Eric
Quote from: Fred on March 28, 2009, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: UwharrieTrail40 on March 28, 2009, 06:37:54 PM
...Except maybe, have them dance in a cage to get more male recruits? %) >:D
"Them"?
"Them"?
Eric, these are fellow Appleseeders you're talking about, not aliens from space - and some of 'em - maybe all - can knock your hat off at 300, 400, maybe even 500 yards...
A little respect, please.
There's a reason, when part of a couple, they're referred to as "the Better Half"...
@)
*giggles* uh oh, look at the trouble I started!
Yep, I'm thinking, the sharper the shooter, the better.... maybe *just maybe* have the "highest scoring" woman be the cover girl! :D