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Road to Rifleman => Skill Sets of Shooting => Topic started by: Wade on September 30, 2008, 07:50:33 PM

Title: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: Wade on September 30, 2008, 07:50:33 PM
Help I can't even find either of my book's (hatchers book of the garand or the m-1 garand owners manual)
So I can't even use the come ups for the ap rounds to start with  and yes my sights are indexed correctly anybody have an indea of where to start.

Have sevral loads to try  useing hornady 168 gr hpbt 45 gr imr 4895 and imr 4064 46 gr greek  milsurp case's.

TIA

Wade
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: wcmartin1 on September 30, 2008, 08:28:19 PM
This ought to getcha started:

http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=354.0
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: Wade on October 01, 2008, 04:46:07 AM
Good reminders of standerd come ups Thank you,, I seem to remember the come ups for the aprounds being a little defrant I think becouse the ap round was/is abit heaver av about 165 gr? ah I will just start at 300 and work from there and see what it does and write down my dope on these loads im useing ,so much to learn .

Wade
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: Spatulaman on October 01, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
 The AP round was IIRC a 173 gr. Which was, I believe,  the same as the LC match. I've got the figures you need around here somehwere, but can't put my hand on it. PM VAshooter, I'll bet he's got that dope.
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: wcmartin1 on October 01, 2008, 12:06:11 PM
Quote from: Wade on October 01, 2008, 04:46:07 AM
Good reminders of standerd come ups Thank you,, I seem to remember the come ups for the aprounds being a little defrant I think becouse the ap round was/is abit heaver av about 165 gr? ah I will just start at 300 and work from there and see what it does and write down my dope on these loads im useing ,so much to learn .

Wade

The standard come ups should get you within a click or two (they did for me) until you find out your own zero for each range.  That's why I posted the link.

You are correct in stating that they will be different.  Due to the higher BC of the 168 grainers I believe you will find that they typically take one or two clicks less.

Remember - every shot is a sighter.   ;D
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: Nickle on October 01, 2008, 12:22:03 PM
AP and M72 Match bullets are both 173 grain, and will have different trajectories, as they have different Ballistic Coefficients.

That being said, find the trajectory chart for 168 gr .308 Match ammo, and you will be very close.
Title: Re: come up's m-1 Garand 168 gr,,any one have a ball park figure ?
Post by: wcmartin1 on October 01, 2008, 12:43:15 PM
Here's some data from Sierra on the 168 gr MK that you can use as a starting point as well.

Find your velocity and go from there.