Has anyone ever used one or maybe seen one used at an Appleseed event? I've been reading about the factory synthetic stock and a few different people mentioned the flex you put on it when you get your sling tight in a prone position. They said that they think this attributes to larger groups if its too tight. Is there any truth to this? I would imagine that the since the sights are affixed to the receiver and barrel that the stock "flex" wouldn't affect it your NPOA. So, anyway moving ahead of this, I still want to change my stock and I can't decide how a thumb hole or evolution stock would affect my hold in a prone position. Or if these particular styles are better for a scope or not. I use Tech Sights and now want to score Rifleman before trying a scope. If anyone has any thoughts on this let me know. I only have a month before the next event and I want to get some range time before AQT time to get a feel for whichever stock I choose.
You can't beat a taken off Ruger wood stock. They're frequently on eBay, and cheap enough.
Anyways, the sling should be snug, not tight. Tight has it's uses, Appleseed (and field shooting) isn't one of them.
The synthetic stock should work OK for you.
By the way, fancy equipment won't get you there. Learning the skills will. You've already got the right equipment for that.
Quote from: Nickle on February 25, 2014, 08:21:20 PM
By the way, fancy equipment won't get you there. Learning the skills will. You've already got the right equipment for that.
I understand that no matter how much money I put into a rifle it won't make me a better marksman. I'm not a fan of the synthetic stock because of the way it feels. I would much rather have a wood stock. I'll check out ebay.
I have never seen the Boyd's stock in person. However, I can tell you that I tried using my new 795 at an event this past weekend, and I found it difficult to get adjusted to. I couldn't quite get comfortable with the rifle, and struggled to get consistent shot placement because I never found a consistent way to hold the rifle. I imagine that with some more time I'd get it worked out, but I really didn't much like the rifle. I was actually glad when my son's 10-22 started having some feed issues. I gave him the 795 to use, and I got out my old bolt rifle, which fits me perfectly. So I don't know whether the Boyd's stock would be an improvement or not, but I can say that the factory 795 stock just doesn't really feel right to me.
By the way, I think there may have been a misunderstanding there earlier in the thread with Nickle. A 10-22 stock wouldn't fit on a 795.
I epoxied a 10" steel spike into the fore stock under the barrel. It helped the heft and doesn't seem to flex.
Quote from: MillerC on February 25, 2014, 08:57:13 PMI understand that no matter how much money I put into a rifle it won't make me a better marksman. I'm not a fan of the synthetic stock because of the way it feels. I would much rather have a wood stock. I'll check out ebay.
Same here. Some folks think they can throw money at marksmanship to improve it. I'm glad you're not one of them.
Oops, my bad here. Just caught the subject rifle was a Marlin 795, not a Ruger 10/22.
Probably won't find one on eBay, but worth a good look.
Sorry about that.
Boyds seems to have a wood stock with the same geometry as the synthetic. My opinion only, if you like the feel of an AR 15 type grip in the prone the evolution model should be fine. If your wrist feels stressed you may want to stick with the Marlin geometry.
If you are feeling creative, a new synthetic stock can be purchased for about 50 dollars or half the cost of the Boyds if you attempt mods on your present stock and fail. YMMV
I have the Boyd's rim fire hunter on one of my 795's and like it. The overall feel of the rifle was much improved, the fore grip is wider and longer, providing a better base and the recoil pad gives a good grip. I shot my rifle as it came for a while before swaping it out and while I like the feel better, it does not make me shoot any better.
My Marlin was older and had metal swivel studs so if you have a newer one, the metal studs on the Boyd's stock will be a nice change.
My other marlin is still bone stock and shoots just as well.
Quote from: paulw on February 25, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
I epoxied a 10" steel spike into the fore stock under the barrel. It helped the heft and doesn't seem to flex.
Mine got a similar treatment with heavy bar stock. Felt vastly more stable overall.
I purchased a Boyds Rimfire Hunter stock in Walnut for my Marlin 795. I really like it compared to the standard polymer stock. Now, granted it's expensive, about the same cost as the rifle itself, so keep that in mind. It seems to free float the barrel and it is also a great deal thicker than the standard stock. I bought it because the rifle is going to someday belong to my son and I like the traditional wood look much more than black plastic. If you appreciate craftsmanship, you won't be disappointed.
Kinda late to this party, but here's a link to what a Rifleman can do with a stock Marlin 795 Appleseed LTR ... http://ingunowners.com/forums/appleseed/322064-appleseed-shoot-nashville-december-7-8-a-3.html
As you can see, absolutely nothing needs to be added or modified for this rifle to shoot accurately.
However, I'm of the opinion that shooting accurately is more mental than physical, so if modifying your rifle makes you happy and causes you to believe it shoots better, then you will shoot better.
Well poop ... it looks like you'll have to create an INGO account to see the picture ... sorry about that.