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After Action Reports! => After Action Reports => Topic started by: bill o rites on August 07, 2013, 09:49:19 AM

Title: Palm Bay FL Aug 3/4 2013
Post by: bill o rites on August 07, 2013, 09:49:19 AM
What a great day for liberty! 15 Patriots braved the heat and torrential downpour to drink from firehose of Appleseed instruction.No summer soldiers or sunshine Patriots here. I want to thank everyone for bringing a teachable attitude,HUZZAH! An Appleseed event in Florida in August is always a challenge, but our Patriots much like their ancestors rose to the occasion.While no Riflemen were revealed, marksmanship improved greatly, and all were introduced to our true history and heritage ,you know the one they don't teach anymore.
Also you may not have noticed it ,but we had a real live war hero on the line Saturday, it's not your fault for not noticing it, because war heroes don't go around telling everyone about it and thank God for them.
      That's all for now, just wanted to get the ball rolling ,please feel free to jump on in   Bill O Rites
Title: Re: Palm Bay FL Aug 3/4 2013
Post by: Guntuckian on August 07, 2013, 10:48:47 PM
 :pics:

Here are the links to the M1 Garand  training films that I mentioned during the KD lecture on Sunday, including the formula for estimating Windage corrections quickly in your head! 

It's hundreds of yards times wind in mph, divided by 10, for full value winds. Winds from the right, from 2-4 on the clock dial, and from 8-10, on the left, are full value winds.  From 1-2, 4-5, 7-8, and 10 -11, they're half value, meaning you halve the Windage correction.  Within 1 hour +/- of straight at you at 12 o'clock, or behind you at 6 o'clock, they are zero values.  For example, for a target at 500 yards, with a wind coming from your right at 3o'clock, at 20 mph, the Windage correction would be 5 x 20 = 100, divided by 10, or 10 MOA right Windage.  Strelok, a free smartphone app, calculates a Windage of + 8.64 MOA, vs. 10.0 MOA, assuming a ballistic coefficient of 0.405, for M2 ball .30-06, or an error of only 1.36 MOA, or an error of only 6.8 inches.   Remember, 10 MOA is an offset of 50 inches for predicted wind effects, so getting within 6.8 inches in your head is pretty good!   Close enough for a Rifleman hit!   ^:)^

Have an M1 Garand and want to learn how to uses the various sighting tools on  the rifle?  Then go back in time and watch this WW II Training Movie. (Note  there is part 2 on the same page;  part 2 covers "elevation and windage", including the Windage formula discussed above!  2 hours of excellent training, including on sling usages!)

There are also tricks for estimating wind speed in mph if you see a flag, or drop a piece of paper, then estimate the angle, and divide by 4.  For example, if you drop a piece of cloth or paper, and when it lands you are pointing at the dropped cloth or paper an angle of 40 degrees out from straight down you can estimate the wind speed as 40  divided by 4, or 10 mph .  It works the same way for the angle of flags to the flagpole, too.

WW2 Training Film:
http://www.archive.org/details/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1

Also check out the WW2 Training Manual (1943):
http://www.archive.org/details/How_to_Shoot_the_US_Army_Rifle


-- gb
Title: Re: Palm Bay FL Aug 3/4 2013
Post by: draken on August 08, 2013, 10:23:44 AM
Malabar and the 3rd Strike during Saturday's downpour!

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Ball and dummy!
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Safeties On! Stand! AQTs on Sunday
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Title: Re: Palm Bay FL Aug 3/4 2013
Post by: IamCaleb on August 11, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Awesome! I'll be there in December, can't wait.