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Title: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Kosciusko on March 29, 2012, 01:49:16 PM

I searched the forum and couldn't find a previous mention of this:

I think I want one, or more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWTN-xQo_g&feature=youtu.be

Ruger MSRP  is $389, wonder how much thru the instructor purchase program ?
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Roland on March 29, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
I want one.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: George Hacker on March 29, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
Keeping the bolt locked back is an important feature of this rifle.  I wonder if this will eliminate the use of the bolt quick-release modification for this particular model.

- ShadowMan
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: BeSwift on March 29, 2012, 02:35:55 PM
It's now on my gotta get list too... There's good info and other videos on the Ruger website about the 10/22 Takedown as well...  BeSwift
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: nyrasgt on March 29, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
Folks,
   Do NOT have this engraved in stone...and STILL waiting for S&W (plus Walther and Thompson Center) to release their 2012 IPP sheet, but in the past, Ruger would allow  qualified instructors to purchase anything they made under the program, if one asked politely.
  Typically, the IPP discount is around 32-37% off msrp, so roughly $250 IF Ruger will include the TD 10-22 in the program.
   FYI, we're still working on a Ruger-TALO Distrib Appleseed Training Rifle with studs, swivels, sling, peep sights, and 2 mags (and, of course, Appleseed information)...stay tuned, and
Excelsior,
madMark
mad
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Foppish Dandy on March 29, 2012, 04:49:28 PM
Ooh... ooh... I want!  ;D
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Kosciusko on March 29, 2012, 05:01:05 PM
Ruger spec sheet:

http://www.ruger.com/products/ruger1022Takedown/specSheets/11100.html

another youtube review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tujhOuLT-DY

The local shop is getting one in, maybe as soon as tomorrow.    I will play hooky at lunch and fondle it if I get the chance.

stainless and w/ a synthetic stock, perfect for those rainy shoots
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: mac66 on March 29, 2012, 05:57:02 PM
Ruger will sell a ton of the take down rifles.

A Talo Appleseed Rifle?  That would be awesome. Is that info secret or can we discuss it in polite company?

Quote from: nyrasgt on March 29, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
Folks,
   Do NOT have this engraved in stone...and STILL waiting for S&W (plus Walther and Thompson Center) to release their 2012 IPP sheet, but in the past, Ruger would allow  qualified instructors to purchase anything they made under the program, if one asked politely.
  Typically, the IPP discount is around 32-37% off msrp, so roughly $250 IF Ruger will include the TD 10-22 in the program.
   FYI, we're still working on a Ruger-TALO Distrib Appleseed Training Rifle with studs, swivels, sling, peep sights, and 2 mags (and, of course, Appleseed information)...stay tuned, and
Excelsior,
madMark
mad
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
Darn you Ruger!

As if my list of stuff isn't long enough.

The wife isn't gonna like this.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 09:14:09 PM
BTW,

Anybody else notice in that first video.....

Mag in, bolt closed, safety off.

Shame!
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: George Hacker on March 29, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
Darn you Ruger!

As if my list of stuff isn't long enough.

The wife isn't gonna like this.
Be a gentleman, Swamp Thing, and buy her one for your anniversary.  Maybe she'll return the favor. ;)

- ShadowMan
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Barbie on March 29, 2012, 09:50:10 PM
Definitely interested in this one... and the list grows  ;)
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: grunt soldier on March 29, 2012, 10:18:44 PM
I'm definitely in for one.  not on make a great appleseed rifle but one heck of a pack rifle.  break it down throw it in your pack for the weekend camping and you got your dinner getter too :)
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: ShadowMan on March 29, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
Darn you Ruger!

As if my list of stuff isn't long enough.

The wife isn't gonna like this.
Be a gentleman, Swamp Thing, and buy her one for your anniversary.  Maybe she'll return the favor. ;)

- ShadowMan


Think she'll mind if it has my initials engraved in it? I can say it's so she remembers who loves her enough to buy her a rifle. >:D
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: George Hacker on March 29, 2012, 11:04:11 PM
Quote from: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 11:02:07 PM
Think she'll mind if it has my initials engraved in it? I can say it's so she remembers who loves her enough to buy her a rifle. >:D
Touché  ;)
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?

What if we contact Ruger and ask for studs and the RWVA oval engraved on the receiver?   I say group buy.

Oh, thats right.  They can't keep up with demand... Ruger stopped taking orders....  >:(

There goes that idea.   :slap:
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?
Seriously. How do they not get it?
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: George Hacker on March 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?
Seriously. How do they not get it?
<sarcasm>Silly Appleseeders...  Slings are for carrying the rifle and the takedown model comes with that slick purse/sandbag, I mean case.  Why attach a sling if you have the black bag with the pouch for multiple 25-round magazines?</sarcasm>

- ShadowMan
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Roland on March 30, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
I really wish Ruger listened to the end user.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: ShadowMan on March 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?
Seriously. How do they not get it?
<sarcasm>Silly Appleseeders...  Slings are for carrying the rifle and the takedown model comes with that slick purse/sandbag, I mean case.  Why attach a sling if you have the black bag with the pouch for multiple 25-round magazines?</sarcasm>

- ShadowMan
Sadly I'm certain this is their exact thinking.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Barbie on March 30, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: ShadowMan on March 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?
Seriously. How do they not get it?
<sarcasm>Silly Appleseeders...  Slings are for carrying the rifle and the takedown model comes with that slick purse/sandbag, I mean case.  Why attach a sling if you have the black bag with the pouch for multiple 25-round magazines?</sarcasm>

- ShadowMan
Sadly I'm certain this is their exact thinking.

Sounds like we need to get the people that are in charge of making these rifles out to an AS
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: 2 clicks low on March 30, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
Quote from: Oakley on March 30, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: ShadowMan on March 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: aragornelessar86 on March 30, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Superheat on March 30, 2012, 08:47:24 AM
No studs on that stock... I'm bummed.  &)  how hard is it?
Seriously. How do they not get it?
<sarcasm>Silly Appleseeders...  Slings are for carrying the rifle and the takedown model comes with that slick purse/sandbag, I mean case.  Why attach a sling if you have the black bag with the pouch for multiple 25-round magazines?</sarcasm>

- ShadowMan
Sadly I'm certain this is their exact thinking.

Sounds like we need to get the people that are in charge of making these rifles out to an AS

They are listening to their customers. We have forged what , 20,000, 30,000 riflemen?
They have sold over 6,000,000 10/22's. When we get to serious numbers, I think Fred said 2016, we will get them to listen to us. Until then we don't make enough of a difference in their customer research.

2cl
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Foppish Dandy on March 30, 2012, 10:07:10 PM
Quote from: 2 clicks low on March 30, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
They are listening to their customers. We have forged what , 20,000, 30,000 riflemen?
They have sold over 6,000,000 10/22's. When we get to serious numbers, I think Fred said 2016, we will get them to listen to us. Until then we don't make enough of a difference in their customer research.

2cl

It's just like contacting our government representatives... we can complain about the problem all we want. However, how many of us have actually emailed/called/written to Ruger to specifically request this? Somehow I think that if they even got 1000 emails regarding an LTR it would make an impression.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: 2 clicks low on March 30, 2012, 10:27:05 PM
Quote from: Foppish Dandy on March 30, 2012, 10:07:10 PM
Quote from: 2 clicks low on March 30, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
They are listening to their customers. We have forged what , 20,000, 30,000 riflemen?
They have sold over 6,000,000 10/22's. When we get to serious numbers, I think Fred said 2016, we will get them to listen to us. Until then we don't make enough of a difference in their customer research.

2cl

It's just like contacting our government representatives... we can complain about the problem all we want. However, how many of us have actually emailed/called/written to Ruger to specifically request this? Somehow I think that if they even got 1000 emails regarding an LTR it would make an impression.

Might work. The question is howmany of the 1000 would accualy buy one? I have heard that a distributor has to order 10,000 for a custom run like the current BSA guns.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: nyrasgt on March 31, 2012, 01:34:24 PM
Gents,
  2CLlow off a bit re minumum buy numbers.  Patience and persistence got us in on the Instructor Purchase Programs, with
Ruger, Henry, and, eventually, Smith.  Appx 1/3 off MSRP, so "plain" 10-22s are about $200 - but they still need studs, swivels, slings, and better sights, as well as at least 2nd mag.
   Such will be what the Ruger/TALO ATR will have - everything you need (to shoot @ an Appleseed wkend) and nothing you don't (can still add other toys).   With the ATR comes significant national publicity when
The American Rifleman, Gun Tests, Shotgun News, and XXX other magazines write articles testing said rifle, thus further increasing sales...
   Including PA information  perhaps a coupon for free attendance @ a PA event just helps us fill those lines...
Start saving up - Mr. Volk is already on board to reshoot the AR15 girl poster with the ATR...priceless...
Excelsior,
madMark
PS Appleseed embroidered denim, button-down shirt purchase info appearing on PA Store site any minute...
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Kosciusko on April 01, 2012, 12:19:50 AM
Handled the TD 10/22 today.

model prefix is 250, which would indicated they assigned it some time ago, since they're selling 3xx series now

It fits together and comes apart just like in the videos.

One could add QD mounts by carefully drilling the plastic furniture, then filling the holes w/ a construction adhesive such as PL400.  Those things would   _never_ come out.

sights, trigger, etc., all the same as your standard 10/22. 

only criticism at this point:   the knurled ring that tightens up the barrel

it's about the width of the body of a bic pen, too narrow for me

I have big monkey hands, and I'd like the ring to be  about as wide as my thumb.

I suppose you could make yourself a hand tool that give you a good grip on the knurled ring and leverage to tighten it.

Just my 2 cents, as always, YMMV

K
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Charles McKinley on April 01, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
Tom Gresham had on a bunch of RugerBrass on today. 

Here is a link to the contest for a 10/22 take down:
Www.guntalk.com

P.S.  Appleseed will be on Gun Talk right after the NRA convention.  If you don't know who he is his shows are archived, check them out after entering the contest, good stuff!
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: RiflesnReins on April 02, 2012, 08:00:14 AM
Quote from: Swamp Thing on March 29, 2012, 09:10:38 PM
Darn you Ruger!

As if my list of stuff isn't long enough.

The wife isn't gonna like this.

For Mom and Dad's 17th anniversary, Mom bought Dad "Furniture". He had to wait a whole 17 years.     
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Sly223 on April 02, 2012, 05:02:14 PM
I would like one semi-auto,
I forgot how to pump a shotgun and proved it on my last Hog outing! :slap:
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: mac66 on April 02, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: Sly223 on April 02, 2012, 05:02:14 PM
I would like one semi-auto,
I forgot how to pump a shotgun and proved it on my last Hog outing! :slap:

Uh....it is a semi auto.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Kosciusko on April 20, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
Well, the shop sold the first 10/22 takedown I handled.

today, at lunch, I played hooky and swung by for some window shopping and...

takedown # 2 was on the rack

320.63 out the door, will try and test it at the Appleseed this weekend

Happy Patriots' Day to all
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: slim on April 20, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
The one I handled seemed pretty solid but I found it hard to justify the extra $130 just because it broke into two pieces. I'd rather use that money to purchase tech sights, sling swivels, a USGI sling, and some ammo.

But..... let us know how it worked. I may just end up with one after all!
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Kosciusko on April 20, 2012, 09:01:59 PM


I know, but what's the point of being a big kid if you can't indulge yourself in big toys now and again ?
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: slim on April 20, 2012, 09:17:40 PM
That's an excellent point!  O0
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: SSG Platz on April 20, 2012, 10:23:09 PM
Did anyone watch sons of guns? IDE love to have one of those bull pups them and Max brooks came up with!

~PlatzOut~
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: BeSwift on April 20, 2012, 10:42:08 PM
Handled one at a gunshow this evening. Guy was asking $300... It's neat if you've got the extra dough, but I think I'll hold off to get that Ruger Scout rifle.... BeSwift
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: nyrasgt on April 22, 2012, 03:20:20 AM
Ladies and Gents,
   Suspect (though have not formally asked) that Ruger will  make Take Down 10-22 part of Instructor Purchase Program (unless in too short supply, in which case we'll wait a year) for RHIs (with copy of credentials) @ appx 1/3 off MSRP.  Know the regular 10-22s list around $300 and "our" price is just under $200...
   STILL waiting for S&W IPP sheet to be release - for 2012...patience and perseverance...
Excelsior,
madMark
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 14, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
I just purchased one yesterday.

It will end up doing duty as a loaner LTR of last resort, though I mostly bought this for myself as a "motorcycle" rifle.  The take-down element to it sold itself to me.  Feels 10 times as solid as the Henry AR-7 or Marlin Papoose method of building a takedown rifle.

Currently sporting a Millet Red Dot I had lying around, but it will eventually get either TechSights or Lyman Aperture sights.

Slinging it will be interesting... doesn't come with sling swivels installed and there is no access to the hollow area of the buttstock.  I don't think I want to use a course-thread wood-style sling stud, and if you use machine screw sling studs then you need to get a nut and washer into the recess of the stock.  I hear that the butt plate is glued in with a soft glue that can be cut through with a razorblade, granting access to the stock interior.

And the final product of the rifle, slung up under tension, should be interesting.  I don't think I want to loan it out a bunch just so it doesn't get the barrel socket at the receiver all stretched.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Reddot on June 14, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Slinging it is no problem; I set one up for my brother a couple of weeks ago. I used the Uncle Mike set for the standard 10-22; had to relieve some of the material within the barrel band so it would hold tight for the front and just drilled a pilot hole in the plastic stock about 2 inches in front of the butt plate for the rear.  After that, just screwed the stud in so it lined up to take a 1-1/4" swivel. Put the swivels on and added the GI sling.  He Shot a 197 on his very first AQT with it. 
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Publican on June 14, 2012, 08:03:35 PM
My first real rifle purchase and shot Rifleman on the second day. Yes, I took it down between days.

I sighted it in at home before I added the following item so I could add a sling. I had not yet added a connecting point on the butt.
ProMag PM185 Ruger 10/22 and Carbine Tactical Barrel Band http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BAAJVG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

The only time I had to sight it in again was after I removed the scope, added LocTite and replaced the scope.

I LOVE IT.....Still!!!
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Publican on June 14, 2012, 08:14:55 PM
sorry - duplicate post
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: mac66 on June 15, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: TheF00L on June 14, 2012, 08:03:35 PM
My first real rifle purchase and shot Rifleman on the second day. Yes, I took it down between days.

I sighted it in at home before I added the following item so I could add a sling. I had not yet added a connecting point on the butt.
ProMag PM185 Ruger 10/22 and Carbine Tactical Barrel Band http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BAAJVG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

The only time I had to sight it in again was after I removed the scope, added LocTite and replaced the scope.

I LOVE IT.....Still!!!

Congratulations on earning your patch.

I saw a TD on the line a couple weeks ago.  Basically the shooter bought it and then brought it to an Appleseed. No swivels, factory sights. We rigged him up best we could but he struggled with it.  I am pretty sure the next shoot he comes to it will have sights/scope and a proper sling set up.   If I didn't already have 5 10/22s I would buy one.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Prairie Eagle on July 30, 2012, 09:04:27 PM
I love my Takedown. Judging by the interest/questions I've gotten at a few appleseeds, others are interested in them too. They are so handy when tossed into the bag, to haul around, and easy to know the rifle is safe :-) Mine is not exactly stock as I modified a revolution stocks for it:
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6184/img6202x.jpg)

since then I added Bravo Mil sights and cut down the factory stock and painted it up so my 10 year old daughter can use it at her first appleseed this weekend:
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/753/img6261w.jpg)

She will not use the scope (better eyes than the ole man, needs to learn on irons).

For those that don't know, Ruger has just come out with a special Olympic US Shooting team edition available through Talo which I think is kinda cool:
(http://cdn.ammoland.com/files/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/USA-Shooting-Team-Ruger-10-22-Takedown-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Prairie Eagle on August 17, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
Well, the wife wanted her own rifle after going to her first Appleseed, so I made a deal with her that she's gotta keep going to shoot the score with it. She looked around and latched onto the USA Shooting special edition.

So a few days later another takedown in the family:

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6309/usashooting.jpg)

These takedowns are rather handy to haul around, fits in my bin with my other gear for a shoot. Only problem I've found so far is they seem to multiply like rabbits  ;D
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: ID_Hezekiah on November 03, 2012, 05:24:13 PM
There was one on the line at the last AS here in Blackfoot ID and I had trouble trying to work the OEM irons in for the lady that was shooting it. I got one a couple of weeks ago and was not impressed with the accuracy and irons.  I put the scope rail and a red dot on it and got it to shoot one hole at 25M with Eley Sport 40 gr ammo only.  I put a Nodak Spud sight set on it yesterday and just sighted it in again at 25M.  As before, it shoots 3 or 4" groups with other ammo and puts 10 of the Eley Sport rounds in one 1/2MOA hole.  I replaced the trigger group with an excellent Black Maxx from Hornet Products and it's easy to mount sling swivels.  I'm very happy with it as long as I feed it Eley Sport.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Johnnyappleseed on November 04, 2012, 01:28:59 PM
Quote from: ID_Hezekiah on November 03, 2012, 05:24:13 PM
There was one on the line at the last AS here in Blackfoot ID and I had trouble trying to work the OEM irons in for the lady that was shooting it. I got one a couple of weeks ago and was not impressed with the accuracy and irons.  I put the scope rail and a red dot on it and got it to shoot one hole at 25M with Eley Sport 40 gr ammo only.  I put a Nodak Spud sight set on it yesterday and just sighted it in again at 25M.  As before, it shoots 3 or 4" groups with other ammo and puts 10 of the Eley Sport rounds in one 1/2MOA hole.  I replaced the trigger group with an excellent Black Maxx from Hornet Products and it's easy to mount sling swivels.  I'm very happy with it as long as I feed it Eley Sport.

Good info Hezekiah O0
I was guessing which AS instructor would be the 1st to  add $800 worth of modifications to this neat little rifle . I thought of you and "critical mass " as the most likely candidates .  ;D
Idaho men and women who truly know what they are about ^5 O0
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: ID_Hezekiah on November 04, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
$800? Not even close! ;) The Hornet Products trigger group is a real bargain at $130 (with a $30 core rebate that makes it a super trigger at a great net price of $100) and the Nodak Spuds are only another $100. O0

I do have to admit to being really surprised at the significant ammo preference shown by the rifle.  I'll have to spend some more time testing my other 10/22s as I've always considered "vanilla" bulk ammo sufficient for 4MOA in most and have seen a real difference between choices.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: ID_Hezekiah on November 04, 2012, 08:41:30 PM
Check out the difference in grouping for these four 5-shot strings with my Ruger takedown.  Before we get sidetracked with "talking targets" all four strings were shot with the rifle solidly sandbagged.
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Miller on November 04, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Sandbagged?

Don't the bags get in the way of your sling? @)

:ducks and runs:
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: ID_Hezekiah on November 04, 2012, 10:48:53 PM
Quote from: Miller on November 04, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Sandbagged?

Don't the bags get in the way of your sling? @)

:ducks and runs:

;D Once the arrow is true - then all blame will fall upon the indian  ;) @)
Title: Re: Ruger 10/22 takedown model?
Post by: Johnnyappleseed on November 05, 2012, 11:06:23 AM
Excelent scientific tests Hezikiah  O0
keep us posted on your ammo studies and modifications with regard to MOA ^5

I am curiuos as to the best groups fired w/o sandbag rests and if point of impact changes with field  positions ?