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Your Appleseed State Board => Indiana => Topic started by: Barbie on March 10, 2012, 10:03:38 AM

Title: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 10, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
I should be concentrating on work right now, but with lack of sleep, the mind wanders  :D

I got to thinking about how warmer weather is right around the corner and with that comes the inevitable state fairs of summertime.  This got me thinking back to my ol' 4-H days when I took "Shooting Sports".

Has anyone ever tried to do any "cross promoting"/reaching out of sorts with local 4-H groups, especially with those people enrolled in "Shooting Sports"?

Taken from Purdue University's 4-H website:

The 4-H shooting sports project teaches safe operation of firearms and archery equipment. Six disciplines are offered at the state level: archery, hunting, muzzleloading, pistol, rifle, and shotgun. The disciplines offered in any county will depend on the availability of certified 4-H shooting sports instructors to teach the classes, ranges, and equipment.


This is a link to the Master List for the National 4-H Shooting Sports State Contacts that I came across online:

http://www.4-hshootingsports.org/state_contacts.php

Of course I'm sure there's a lot more reasearch that could yet be done in regards to this, but from what little I've done I haven't seen any AS involvement... possibly a great opportunity to reach out to the youth, and teach them not only about the safety aspect, but also about our history and being an active member of society...

Also, what about setting up a booth at various 4-H Fairs?  I think this would be a great opportunity to promote AS, and reach a lot of people who may have not otherwise heard of the AS opportunity.  I know I'd be up for volunteering to man a booth!  (well... "woman a booth"  ;D )

Just a thought!  Now back to work!   ~~:)
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Fred on March 10, 2012, 11:36:07 PM

   Barbie, as a "newbie" you may not have heard of our rule in AS (Appleseed) that the promoter of a "good idea" is the perfect person to get it done.

   You can see proof of that in the fact that currently there have been 30 views of your idea, and not one comment, much less anyone else volunteering to step up.

    So, if you think this is a good idea (I happen to agree with you - it is a good idea), it's yours - and full speed ahead with it.

    I'm sure over the years that various contacts with 4H have been made, and that 4H-ers have shown up at AS. Maybe someone with direct knowledge can post the details.

    We need more energetically-backed ideas like this one.
   
     @)
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 11, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
Haha, although I may be a "newbie",  I'm fully aware  :)  I just don't mind stickin' my neck out there and making my busy schedule even busier! 

Full steam ahead  ~~:)
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: AuntieBellum on March 11, 2012, 11:26:08 AM
Barbie, great ideas!  You might want to send yellowhousejake a PM.  I know he was working on some stuff with 4-H shooting sports last year.  He's out Shoot Bossing this weekend while the rest of us bums sit on our behinds and do mundane stuff like work, so I wouldn't expect a reply until tomorrow night at the earliest.   ;)
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 11, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Thanks, I'll get around to that tonight or tomorrow... I'm unfortunately stuck doing "mundane work" this weekend also, instead of out enjoying this beautiful weather!    :'(
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Unbridled Liberty on March 11, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
Barbie,

Let us know if you get anywhere.  I've been pokin' 'em with a stick here in Kentucky for about a year with no response.

UL
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 11, 2012, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: Unbridled Liberty on March 11, 2012, 12:59:39 PM
Barbie,

Let us know if you get anywhere.  I've been pokin' 'em with a stick here in Kentucky for about a year with no response.

UL

Will do.   O0
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 12, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
Update!

I recieved an e-mail from Shanna Joseph  - Manager of Ripley County Parks & Recreation.  She recieved the email I had sent her, and actually herself visited the AS website.  After telling her about Project Appleseed, and tying it in with 4-H she seemed pretty enthusiastic about it. 

She put my name/Project Appleseed down on the waiting list for booth space (either indoor/outdoor, I told her we'd take whatever was available).  We'll know by April 30th whether or not we were able to secure a spot, they need to hear who's coming back from last year's booths first (there's only 4-5 others on the waiting list, and beings that I said we're open to either indoor or outdoor space, I'm optimistic). 

@AuntieBellum- I PM'd yellowhousejake like you suggested.

@ UnbridledLiberty-  Have you tried contacting local parks & recreation managers?  This may be the way to go!

More details to come as it gets closer to April 30th

^:)^
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
HQ and I are taking over the rifle Shooting Sport in Greene Co. 4-H.  I decided to circumvent the whole promotions thing and we are going to host Appleseeds there.  I will teach the kids how to outshoot their parents and tell the parents if they want to figure out how, come to a seed.
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Unbridled Liberty on March 12, 2012, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
HQ and I are taking over the rifle Shooting Sport in Greene Co. 4-H.  I decided to circumvent the whole promotions thing and we are going to host Appleseeds there.  I will teach the kids how to outshoot their parents and tell the parents if they want to figure out how, come to a seed.

Aren't you the sly one...
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Unbridled Liberty on March 12, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: Barbie on March 12, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
...@ UnbridledLiberty-  Have you tried contacting local parks & recreation managers?  This may be the way to go!

^:)^

Great idea, thank you.

UL
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 12, 2012, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
HQ and I are taking over the rifle Shooting Sport in Greene Co. 4-H.  I decided to circumvent the whole promotions thing and we are going to host Appleseeds there.  I will teach the kids how to outshoot their parents and tell the parents if they want to figure out how, come to a seed.

I like the way you think  O0
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: grunt soldier on March 13, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
HQ and I are taking over the rifle Shooting Sport in Greene Co. 4-H.  I decided to circumvent the whole promotions thing and we are going to host Appleseeds there.  I will teach the kids how to outshoot their parents and tell the parents if they want to figure out how, come to a seed.

lol that is funny stuff right there.  good thinking sir :)
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: SPQR on March 13, 2012, 09:03:25 PM
Prior to me taking it over they were shooting 5 rounds from a bag and bench at 10 meters per club meeting, boy are they in for it now.  I even convinced the council to move the berm back to 28 meters so i can start hosting Seeds there and use the range fees and concession fees to fund the 4-H program (we have 6 rifles for 43 kids).  All I did was explain what my safety curriculum would look like and why trajectory and IMC made a 25 meter line critical and the SS director sat in silence for several seconds and then said, "Whatever you want".  If this works I hope to host as many as 4 seeds there next year and hopefully 2 this fall.
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 13, 2012, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: SPQR on March 13, 2012, 09:03:25 PM
"Whatever you want".  If this works I hope to host as many as 4 seeds there next year and hopefully 2 this fall.

Yea!  That's great.   O0
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Charles McKinley on March 13, 2012, 11:31:35 PM
My brother and I will be working with our local club this year in Venango County, PA
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: grunt soldier on March 14, 2012, 12:32:20 AM
Quote from: SPQR on March 13, 2012, 09:03:25 PM
Prior to me taking it over they were shooting 5 rounds from a bag and bench at 10 meters per club meeting, boy are they in for it now.  I even convinced the council to move the berm back to 28 meters so i can start hosting Seeds there and use the range fees and concession fees to fund the 4-H program (we have 6 rifles for 43 kids).  All I did was explain what my safety curriculum would look like and why trajectory and IMC made a 25 meter line critical and the SS director sat in silence for several seconds and then said, "Whatever you want".  If this works I hope to host as many as 4 seeds there next year and hopefully 2 this fall.

the bad part is I can just see Ol' huff just laying it on him too :)  glad to see you convinced to not only do the 4-h but host events there.  very good stuff.
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 26, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
Update:  Should know sometime this month whether or not we were able to secure a spot. 

Also, while browsing the forum, came across this post from fellow AS'er Scuzzy down in Florida, and wanted to share it:

"I'd done a preparedness expo back in Feb where we setup a small shooting range with hay bale backers. We had a few Daisy BB guns. Man, was that popular. It was non stop shooting. The kids, and a few adults, had a blast.

And while the kids are busy shooting you have a captive audience with the parents standing there. Good time for 7th stepping."

http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=28433.0

I thought that was a great idea, setting up a "mini-range" using Redcoats and AQT's... maybe some of us if given the chance can "steal" Scuzzy's idea


Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Reddot on March 27, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
Oakley,
oneshot_onehole and Prone to Knit from Colorado are the masters of the pellet gun/hay bale range.  They're the ones that set up the one Scuzzy mentioned (it was actually done in Mesquite, TX, not Florida).  And Scuzzy wasn't kidding about being busy--we went non-stop for about 9 hours on a Saturday with the range--wasn't just kids either--quite a few adults were very interested in the program--a couple of the folks that we met at the expo were at the Appleseed in Fort Worth the following weekend.
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Sly223 on March 27, 2012, 10:06:05 AM
Great job Barbie,
do you have any relatives in Fl?
Do you want to move here we need one of you in each state!
Newbie or not you are doin' great stuff kid, keep up the good work! ;D
Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Ramblin' Wreck on March 27, 2012, 10:57:41 AM
We're already cross promoting. Here is my daughter Regan's 4H DPA presentation which took 1st place in NW Georgia recently.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGSmv788CTM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGSmv788CTM)


Use it as you see appropriate.


She shot a 227 last August and will get her orange hat, now that she turned 13, at the next Appleseed she attends.



Title: Re: A Possible "Cross-Promoting" Opportunity for AS...
Post by: Barbie on March 27, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
@ Reddot-  Thanks for letting me know the masters of the pellet gun/hay bale range.  Great idea folks  O0

@Sly223-  I don't know if I could handle living in Florida and having sunny, warm weather AS's all the time  ;D

@ Ramblinwreck-  Awesome!  I hope it brings more people into the program.  O0

@ Regan-  You go girl!  Great job on the presentation   ^:)^