Hey everyone... I think I posted this in the correct place. If not, please feel free to let me know where this post should go.
I was hoping to hear some of your favorite quotes pertaining to the American Revolution. Particularly those involving shooting, taking up arms or defending our way of life...
Can't wait to see what everyone comes up with!
Langer,
Here is where you will find the archive of patriotic wisdom: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=18215.0 (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=18215.0)
Enjoy and have a happy Thanksgiving!
- ShadowMan
@Foppish Dandy; Really enjoyed these! Really important to hold on to with the constant assaults to our second ammendment rights especially now!
This is my favorite quote from the revolutionary war;
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
~The Constitution~
~PlatzOut~
Not technically a "Founder quote", but little doubt it was an influence upon the Founding generation:
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle. "
Edmund Burke
"Individualism", in the struggle against organized evil, is futile and needlessly sacrificial. However, good men, working together in association, for the cause of Liberty for all, can prevail.
Appleseed is one such association.
" No King but King Jesus "
works well when outlining source of American rights .
Possibly what Gen Washington was thinking when he refused to be King ;)
Could he have reflected, we already have a king ?
Quote from: Johnnyappleseed on October 17, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
" No King but King Jesus "
works well when outlining source of American rights .
Possibly what Gen Washington was thinking when he refused to be King ;)
Could he have reflected, we already have a king ?
It doesn't work for everyone. Remember there are arguments for Natural Law / Rights that don't involve a deity, let alone a particular one.
Quote from: Nero on October 17, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Johnnyappleseed on October 17, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
" No King but King Jesus "
works well when outlining source of American rights .
Possibly what Gen Washington was thinking when he refused to be King ;)
Could he have reflected, we already have a king ?
It doesn't work for everyone. Remember there are arguments for Natural Law / Rights that don't involve a deity, let alone a particular one.
You are correct that it may not work for everyone .
So far ,based on the feedback at events I have been honored to SB the quote and concept has not been challenged .
It ties in with the black robe regiment and Pastor Mulenberg (sp) which I may use with a church group or a area where religion is prevelant .
Some area's ,it works to have an attendee say a 30 second non denominational prayer . I have done this a few times and the weekend went as if it were blessed ;)
The prayer like the pledge is of course before the official AS begins .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Muhlenberg
Quote from: LTR62401 on October 17, 2012, 06:18:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Muhlenberg
Frederick was initially the pacifist. You must be thinking of his brother John:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Muhlenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Muhlenberg)
Thanx for the links regarding the Muhlenberg's both of them O0
The part of preaching from Ecclessiastes gives the opportunity for great drama ,for those so inclined to elevate portions of our christian foundation ;)
i forgot lots of how it went down in that Virginia church .
Another quote which has a religious theme is from the Patrick Henry speech "... there is a just god who presides over the destinys of nations ..."
I personally believe we're better off leaving religion as undiscussed as modern politics. Religion does not help us bail out the ship. It is just something which can divide us. I also believe that if you did offend anyone they probably wouldn't bother to tell you and just would never come back to another event.
Quote from: Johnnyappleseed on October 17, 2012, 05:59:51 PM
You are correct that it may not work for everyone .
So far ,based on the feedback at events I have been honored to SB the quote and concept has not been challenged .
It ties in with the black robe regiment and Pastor Mulenberg (sp) which I may use with a church group or a area where religion is prevelant .
Some area's ,it works to have an attendee say a 30 second non denominational prayer . I have done this a few times and the weekend went as if it were blessed ;)
The prayer like the pledge is of course before the official AS begins .
I introduce people to the Black Robe Regiment when I give field sermons before the Appleseed shoot on Sunday mornings. The field sermons are available for anyone who wants to attend them and are not part of the Appleseed event. Like the personal stories people hear during the regular Appleseed event, people approach me after the field sermon and tell me "I never heard anything like that in school before."
I think it reinforces what we teach at Appleseed and participation is completely voluntary.
ShadowMan
I should expand my comment above to include that I do not feel there is anything wrong with this practice. :)
Quote from: ShadowMan on October 18, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
I introduce people to the Black Robe Regiment when I give field sermons before the Appleseed shoot on Sunday mornings. The field sermons are available for anyone who wants to attend them and are not part of the Appleseed event. Like the personal stories people hear during the regular Appleseed event, people approach me after the field sermon and tell me "I never heard anything like that in school before."
I think it reinforces what we teach at Appleseed and participation is completely voluntary.
ShadowMan
Quote from: Edheler on October 18, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
I personally believe we're better off leaving religion as undiscussed as modern politics. Religion does not help us bail out the ship. It is just something which can divide us. I also believe that if you did offend anyone they probably wouldn't bother to tell you and just would never come back to another event.
Exactly and while it is not against AS policy, just tread carefully. There was a situation that arose here with a discussion on this IAAR:
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=17289.msg140769#msg140769
We are attempting to reach a very diverse audience these days.
What was the OP about? ;)
Quote from: ShadowMan on October 18, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
I introduce people to the Black Robe Regiment when I give field sermons before the Appleseed shoot on Sunday mornings. The field sermons are available for anyone who wants to attend them and are not part of the Appleseed event. Like the personal stories people hear during the regular Appleseed event, people approach me after the field sermon and tell me "I never heard anything like that in school before."
I think it reinforces what we teach at Appleseed and participation is completely voluntary.
ShadowMan
I would sure enjoy hearing you do stories on the black robe regiment . powerfull stuff especially when we consider the war for independence was impossible ! on paper
From the beginning of our involvement with AS Reformed Redneck has given a short talk about the Black Robed Regiment and then he reads a Field Sermon he has written during the week prior to the shoot. It is announced on Saturday that a Field Sermon will be available to attend beginning at 7:30. It is stated attendance is voluntary.
At the CdA Ladyseed this past weekend I asked Ratchett to give her BRR talk then I read a selection of quotes from Sermons on the Outbreak of War, 1775 (http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/makingrev/crisis/text8/sermonsonwar.pdf) and ended with reading a bit from one of RR's sermons. About 20 ladies attended. It was well received and a number of gals asked for copies.
Modified: For clarity, the field sermons are given prior to the start of an AS and attendance is completely voluntary. Some instructors do bring the BRR into their heritage telling during the 3 Strikes when appropriate.
I just found another good read from the same site:
AMERICANS TO ARMS - National Humanities Center (http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/makingrev/crisis/text8/outbreakofwar.pdf)
Actually, I could spend hours reading material on this site.
Quote from: Edheler on October 18, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
I personally believe we're better off leaving religion as undiscussed as modern politics. Religion does not help us bail out the ship. It is just something which can divide us. I also believe that if you did offend anyone they probably wouldn't bother to tell you and just would never come back to another event.
I strongly agree with each of these points, especially the last one about silenced dissent.
Still, it should be possible to share the historical stories with everyone present, without subjecting non-believers to the sermons. It might require a good bit of judicious editing, but sharing our history seems worth the effort.
(BTW, FWIW, "non denominational prayers" generally only work for those of OTHER denominations WITHIN the Judeo-Christian tradition, and often come across as very "denominational" to Americans from other traditions.)
Quote from: SSG Platz on July 31, 2012, 06:28:24 AM
This is my favorite quote from the revolutionary war;
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
~The Constitution~
~PlatzOut~
Notice the Comma between State and the. A punctuation mark ( , ) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within a sentence. Hence a new thought
One line of my sig is from Lord Percy. It seems to be a slight understatement:
Quote"Things now every day begin to grow more and more serious" Lord Percy
The religious part of the history deserves to be taught along with all the rest. It was indeed a big part of those people's lives. As with all the rest of the history, let it speak for itself. No need to turn it into a sermon, or to imply that one must believe like the colonists if you wish to honor their tradition, etc. Just tell it like it was, and let people draw their own conclusions from it.
Quote from: henschman on October 19, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
The religious part of the history deserves to be taught along with all the rest. It was indeed a big part of those people's lives. As with all the rest of the history, let it speak for itself. No need to turn it into a sermon, or to imply that one must believe like the colonists if you wish to honor their tradition, etc. Just tell it like it was, and let people draw their own conclusions from it.
Amen.
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Luke 22:36