Or more appropriately, best stock for general rifle shooting?
And howdy! I'm new here obviously, and am hoping to get to an Appleseed shoot in the near future. Ihad a quick question about putting together a LTR, however. (Though it should be said that I whole heartedly realize the rifle is one of the least "limiting" components in this equation...)
My situation is a little bit unique in that I'm doing a rifle build backwards. I bought a barreled Ruger 10/22 action about 4 months ago, with lots of internal alterations and a 0.92" bull barrel. It hasn't seen a round through it. Because I want a lighter, handier rifle and iron sights, I have actually purchased a stock 10/22 tapered barrel and some tech sights. All I lack is a stock!
So since I'm working completely from scratch, can anyone point me towards a very standard/basic stock for the 10/22? I'd love a rigid synthetic one, but a laminated one would be ok too. I'd like to keep it as economical as possible, but something around ~$100 wouldn't be the end of the world.
The only reason I haven't just purchased a standard stock is because I hate that friggin barrel band, and don't really want the groove for one hanging around either.
So far, the Hogue Hard Nylon stock seems like it would best fit the bill. I can't find any reviews on it, however.
Any other suggestions would be most welcome!
O0
-Will
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/
Try Numrich...
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=11914 (http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=11914)ock now
I got a couple refinished walnut carbines stocks a couple months ago for ~$40 each that look great - but they say out of stock now.
Lots of choices and prices.
Check out the Hogue over-molded stock.
http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/720599/hogue-overmolded-rifle-stock-ruger-10-22-standard-barrel-channel-rubber-black (http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/720599/hogue-overmolded-rifle-stock-ruger-10-22-standard-barrel-channel-rubber-black) Note reviews.
Soft good grip. Comfortable.
No barrel band.
Don't scratch.
Water proof.
Built in sling studs.
Have survived many Appleseeds as Student and on LTR loaners.
I like the Ruger Classic stock. It has less drop, a
flat rubber buttplate, and no barrel band. It is walnut
with decent checkering. Found one on Ebay for $40.
The Hogue is fine too, especially considering the stability
in all kinds of weather.
Consider the Tapco adjustable stock.
http://www.tapco.com/products/ruger/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=144
It's <$100 and is really great for teaching folks of different sizes.
Thanks for all the input!
- I think I'd like to stay away from the Hogue overmolded stocks, just because of the sticky/tacky feel and because of the flex it seemed to have in-hand. Though the hard nylon hogue is high on my 'maybe' list.
- The Tapco would likely be great if I was sharing the rifle or training others, but I'd like to get a standard rifle stock instead of the pistol grip.
- I like the OEM classic walnut stock a lot, but $140 is too much for this rifle. (That's as cheap as I can find them.)
So far that pretty much leaves the 'Explorer' model here:
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-499/Explorer-Ruger-1022-10-fdsh-22/Detail
or the Hogue, right?
Quote from: SpookyPistolero on October 12, 2011, 05:24:10 PM
- I like the OEM classic walnut stock a lot, but $140 is too much for this rifle. (That's as cheap as I can find them.)
You might be able to get a used one if you post on Craigslist. I have a standard walnut stock on my 30+ year old 10-22 and I find it hard to get a good cheekweld with the scope I have. Just giving you a heads up.
- ShadowMan
+1 on the Hogue stock. They are perfect.
Another vote for the Hogue. Perfect.
While reading an old thread, a gent brought up an interesting point: how well does the stock give a cheek weld when wet/perspiring? Probably a fair question, or enough to make me look at the rubber hogue some more.
1) Does the rubber overmolded hogue flex too much with sling use? Enough to affect accuracy or cause drift?
2) Does it 'grab' dirt and lint and such?
Quote from: SpookyPistolero on October 12, 2011, 11:00:21 PM
While reading an old thread, a gent brought up an interesting point: how well does the stock give a cheek weld when wet/perspiring? Probably a fair question, or enough to make me look at the rubber hogue some more.
1) Does the rubber overmolded hogue flex too much with sling use? Enough to affect accuracy or cause drift?
2) Does it 'grab' dirt and lint and such?
I've had no problems with perspiration and cheek weld. This is shooting in summer in Texas, BTW. FWIW, I would much rather see a large wet sweat spot on the Hogue than on a nice wood stock.
No problems with flexing on the sling, and I run a real tight sling.
No problems with grabbing dirt or lint.
It is really "grippy" on the support hand, which makes it easy to adjust elevation. And I really like the way it feels.
I was just looking at that stock on Ruger the other night. I would've liked the green one but they were sold out. Now I see that the black one is backordered, too.
Hogue also has a really nice looking woodland camo overmolded stock but I think it was a bit more $$.. It would, however, look quite nice on the stainless barrelled 10/22 used one I just purchased. O0 I believe I saw it on the Hogue website.
I already have one black Hogue stock on with a stainless match barrel 10/22. That, plus a nice Vortex scope and blackhawk cheekpad, makes for one nice looking and accurate shooting Ruger 10/22. (after a bit of a trigger job).
The Hogue doesn't flex that I have noticed at all. It's molded rubber over an aluminum frame, I believe.
I like the hogue overmolded myself. Go over to www.rimfirecentral.com Lots of different stuff in the trading section over there. Put up a post with what you're looking for and someone will have one they are looking to get rid of.
Most of the time, a stock needs to be built up to get a proper cheeck weld. Yes a wood stock is slippery when it is hot and you sweat on it. But you can tape/strap on whatever pad you want like felt and then it is fine.
Dutch
The Tapco stock seems to be too high for me to use the tech sights. I had a very difficult time scrunching down. The Blackhawk stock seems to be a good AR style for the Tech Sights. It also works really well for smaller people.
The Compact 10/22 has a very nice straight stock that has a little shorter length of pull, and should be very close to perfect for Tech Sights.
I have a standard carbine stock that I cut down to square off the end and put a piece of 3M grippy deck tape for a buttplate. I built the cheek up with a felt furniture pad and tape.
There are so many people out there "improving" their 10/22s, that frequently you can find brand new unused stocks and sometimes with barrels for cheap on places like Ebay.
Dutch
Quote from: Patriot Gal on October 13, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
The Hogue doesn't flex that I have noticed at all. It's molded rubber over an aluminum frame, I believe.
According to what I can find online, the Ruger 10/22 stocks are only fiberglass frames, rather than aluminum. Apparently only their bolt guns use aluminum. I'd be open to correction on this of course, happily so!
A couple of days ago, I spent an hour or so with a the manufacturer of the barrel I have on order talking about this very topic. Originally I was leaning toward either Boyd's Tacticool stock or a Hogue.
Boyd's is a wooden stock, painted back - based on looks, it should offer a slightly higher cheek weld than a Hogue. Runs $92.00+ s&h. The Hogue is the overmoulded, fiberglass stock is pretty popular. I personally like the feel of the stock, and didn't have any cheek-weld issues (the one I toyed with was on Ruger's Target Tactical). Price for the Hogue ranges from $59.00-$100.00.
I really am looking toward the best of both worlds...or as close as I can get. I don't believe you can go wrong with either for an Appleseed Shoot.
For my build I am opting for a Bell and Carlson Tactical Varmint with their MaxxGuard (or Duraguard) finish. Looks to be combination of the features that I personally like in both Boyd's and Hogue's stocks... but it is double the price range you were budgeting.
I agree with Yankeedutch - the classic stock is nice...and it can get a little slippery when it's hot and muggy.
In the end it all depends on what you want the rifle for. 25m shoots only? 100 yard+? Varmint or target shooting? Are you a fair weather shooter, or do you shoot rain or shine? What gives the best fit between you and the barrel?
Well heck, anyone wanna trade their Hogue sporter barrel stock for my Hogue bull barrel stock? (Unused!) 'Tan' welcome!
A note about Hogue stock--it is possible to over-tighten the screw, and that would restrict the mag extraction. I had that problem, and no amount of mag/stock filing would solve it.
I switched to Blackhawk Axiom, and that problem went away.
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Axiom-RF-Ruger-1022-Rifle-Stock,1371,166.htm (http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Axiom-RF-Ruger-1022-Rifle-Stock,1371,166.htm)
Hogue arrived today! I also picked up a stock 10/22 to put in it, hehe. Tech sights, uncle mike's swivels, and canvas sling have completed the package. Pic's shortly...
Now the question is, which Appleseed are you going to go to? You have Knob Creek and Williamsburg in a few weeks then one in Evansville, IN.
I have 2 Hogues myself.
I found a little filing on the mag well and a little light sanding on the magazines themselves completely
solved the mag drop-out issue.
Kirk is right, vist rimfirecentral.com, there is a ton of stuff over there.
Re: Which appleseed... that's a good question! I didn't know about the Williamsburg one. Looks like it's about the same drive to both from Lex. I'll have to double check the schedule (knob creek is most likely so far). I'm pretty excited to suck less. ;D
Quote from: Texas Rifleman on October 20, 2011, 10:48:40 AM
I have 2 Hogues myself.
I found a little filing on the mag well and a little light sanding on the magazines themselves completely
solved the mag drop-out issue.
Kirk is right, vist rimfirecentral.com, there is a ton of stuff over there.
Yup, just found out about the filing. Took a good thirty minutes to get to where mags would drop free. Not as 'pretty' as before, but functional.
Spook, don't worry about the pretty (mine is not too bad) no one will ever know but you. :D
I don't know if they still market them, but I really like my Butler Creek stock. Before I got involved in Appleseed I had a scope and heavy barrel on the rifle. I reinstalled the original barrel, but kept the .920 barrel channel stock. The barrel is free floated this way. The stock has a higher comb that provides an excellent cheek weld with the Tech sights.
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/161/img0143qq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/img0143qq.jpg/)
This was my first firearm - now doing its duty for the cause 12,000 rounds later.
I have 2 of the ATI stocks on my daughters rifles.
http://www.combatstocks.com/ATI_Ruger_10_22_Six_Position_Side_Folding_Collapsible_Stock.cfm
no connection to the seller it was the firs search result with a pic. I paid $80 with a 20% off coupon from Dunhams.
Pros: Highly adjustable, check piece, Picatiny rail, multiple standard stud sling mounts (Tapco has a kit to buy to attach sling), has a piece to angle stock down it you want it lower for iron sights
Cons too many screws to hold on hand gaurd. Scope gets in the way of tightening them.
Quote from: Xeyed on October 12, 2011, 02:09:49 AM
Check out the Hogue over-molded stock.
http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/720599/hogue-overmolded-rifle-stock-ruger-10-22-standard-barrel-channel-rubber-black (http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/720599/hogue-overmolded-rifle-stock-ruger-10-22-standard-barrel-channel-rubber-black) Note reviews.
Soft good grip. Comfortable.
No barrel band.
Don't scratch.
Water proof.
Built in sling studs.
Have survived many Appleseeds as Student and on LTR loaners.
I second this one. We just put one one a second 10/22 and love it.
We have a Butler Creek which my wife found to have too long a pull. I shortened it 1 1/8 inch and it's perfect for her. Easy to do.