Okay everyone, a heads up. The CMP has sold out of service grade M1's as of August 10th. Field grade, special and correct grade are still available. Get one while you can.
I wonder when they'll be back in stock? I'm saving money now for a trip with a friend, and it'll be a once-in-a-lifetime for me...
It's my understanding they still have them, but they are not available for mail order at this time (I'm guessing until they get caught up on orders.)
If at all possible the best way to get your CMP Garand is to take a trip to either of the stores and personally pick out (they'll help you if you ask - by checking the muzzle wear and/or throat erosion) your M1 Garand.
Not everyone can make the trip (its about a 10 hr. drive for me, the way I go, but it was well worth it.
I took Sean, my grandson, to the South Store to let him pick out his M1 three weeks ago.
Four rifles came home with us. Three of the rifles look like they have had less than 500 rounds put down the tube. Found a SA SG of 5-55 and an HRA SG also 5-55. These rifles even have the 80 grit finish sanding from the arsenal. The forth rifle shows some finish wear but gauged 2 at both ends.
I wore his little butt out! He said his arms hurt from picking up so many rifles. ;D
Go if you get a chance.
Yeah, sort of like the old Lays potato chip commercial. Its tough to leave with just one.
I've been twice and left with two rifles (or starts on two rifles) both times. Two WW2 SA's the first time and two H&R barreled receivers the second time.
Quote from: Charlie98 on August 17, 2011, 12:33:00 AM
It's my understanding they still have them, but they are not available for mail order at this time (I'm guessing until they get caught up on orders.)
Thanks Charlie! Best bet is for me to make a call, as it's ~14 hours for me. I just want to stand in the middle of them all in awe, LOL!
I received my first M1 about four months ago (waited for it for about 30 years!), and am tickled pink! It's a '55 SA, 1+, 2+, and is in very good overall condition; don't know if I could pick any better, but hope to find out!
Quote from: Neighbors on August 19, 2011, 01:01:24 PM
Thanks Charlie! Best bet is for me to make a call, as it's ~14 hours for me. I just want to stand in the middle of them all in awe, LOL!
Yes, I really want to make a trip to the South store... about a 14 hour drive from Dallas... 718 miles, but who's counting... :D
...my crappy FedOrd rebuild SA needs a safe-mate!
I have a couple of questions, can you send the documents ahead of a trip down to the store to make sure the trip isn't wasted for a document glitch, I am assuming they would have to do the background check while you waited and then if there were a delay they would go ahead and ship the selection when all went through?
Guess that is really more than 2 questions and I still have one more- Since the site shows service grades are not shipping but it sounds like if you went there they might have one what is the price of the service grade- I looked at the site and the note saying they are not accepting orders of service grades blocks out the price. Anyone have any answers or suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Why go for a CMP M1?
By Bill Mattocks
former Sgt, USMC (1979-1985)
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#I think the CMP is something I might like to play at, but really, all this for a Garand? What other weapons do you have the choice of here?
#-Norm
Norm,
With respect, I think what you might be missing is how many of us FEEL about the M1 Garand. I'm just a pup compared to the M1 Garand (I'm 36, and a veteran, but I carried the M16A1), but many of us consider that the M1 Garand was "the rifle that won the war." That may or may not be entirely true, but I don't think it can be disputed that there is a lot of history and a lot of emotion tied up in this old, reliable, workhorse of the US military.
There is also the issue that this Garand is somehow DIFFERENT from the M1 Garands available in gun shops. This is not a "lend-lease" Garand that is now coming back home, after serving in who knows how many governments and passing through who knows how many hands. This is an M1 Garand that might have been carried by a US Soldier or Marine in Europe or the South Pacific, that might have spoken freedom with a crack of powder and a hail of lead. This Garand might have seen Mt. Suribachi, and it might have saved the life or lives of American troops in battle.
This M1 Garand might have been cleaned lovingly in Parris Island or San Diego, by Marine recruits who learned to sleep with it, love it, be one with it. It might have been held at the position of "Rifle Salute" while passing through ticker tape parades at the end of the war, or it might have been held at "Present Arms" and saluted the Commander in Chief when "Johnny came marching home again."
This M1 Garand may have been held proudly, lovingly, when the National Ensign was retired for the evening, when "Taps" was sounded mournfully for a fallen brother-in-arms, when "Reveille" sounded in a forward camp in France, Italy, Iwo Jima, or Guadalcanal.
This M1 Garand may have been presented for inspection to Chesty Puller, Douglas MacArther, or Admiral Nimitz. It may have been field-stripped and cleaned by John Basilone, Lou Diamond, or any number of WWII heroes and veterans, some of whose names are not recorded by posterity, but who fought with courage, determination, and pride. In other words, heroes. My heroes.
Probably, it didn't do any of those things. Probably, it is just another rifle, eclipsed in ability and accuracy and rate of fire by the fine battle rifles that came afterwards. But, since it comes directly out of our US arsenals and warehouses, where it was lovingly stored away more than 50 years ago, in the hopes that we would never again be called upon to defend liberty on foreign shores, it MEANS something special to us.
This M1 Garand is a rifle. It is an accurate, hard-hitting rifle, which can make a fine target rifle, game-getter, home-defense weapon, or just a wall-hanger. That doesn't matter.
This M1 Garand is us. It is our determination, our sweat and blood, our father's and grandfather's lives in battle, the price of liberty paid for us!
This M1 Garand rifle represents who we are, who we were, and who we will be in the future.
The United States of America is a special place. We know that others have fought and died for liberty, but we are Americans. The bended knee has never been one of our traditions. We bow to no man, we genuflect to no Prince or Potentate, we have no nobles among us. We have risen up as one against tyranny and oppression since before our nation began. We were born in bloody revolution and have never hesitated to step into the breech when called upon to do so. We have willingly laid down our lives, the lives of our sons and daughters, for an idea, a concept, a theory; that all men should be free, that no man is better than another.
In the uncertainty of WWII, when the very concept of Democracy was in the balance, when two enemies of liberty engaged us at the same time on two different fronts, this M1 Garand gave us a decided edge in battle, and completed by the American Fighting Man and his marksmanship skills, we carried the day for liberty, democracy, and the rights of man.
This M1 Garand is tied to us, and we to it. It is our heritage, and one that should never be denied. It very much represents the terrible price of freedom.
I am an American Fighting Man. I am a Marine, a Soldier, an Airman, a Sailor. I go in harm's way to carry out the Will of the People, and go armed with my skills, my ability, my courage, and my rifle. This M1 Garand represents that rifle to me.
I want my M1 Garand, I want it very much. I don't care what it's limitations are, or what else I could have purchased with the money that I spent to acquire it. I am a Marine Rifleman, and I want what belongs to me, my legacy of freedom, bequeathed to me by my father, grandfather, uncles and grand-uncles, and cousins. They paid the price so that I could claim this M1 Garand and enjoy the full measure of freedom to be found in this country and no other. And I shall.
For those who are interested, all citizens of the United States who are otherwise permitted to own firearms may purchase one M1 Garand per year from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (formerly the Division of Civilian Marksmanship).
Until 1996, the Division of Civilian Marksmanship was administered by the US Army, and charged with distributing former US military weapons into the hands of law-abiding citizens of the USA. They have been doing so since 1916.
There is now a movement afoot by the gun-grabbers to take our heritage away from us, as they feel that law-abiding citizens can't be trusted to not shoot ourselves or each other with these weapons. We may not win this battle for our heritage; therefore, I would urge anyone who feels as I do to get involved, fight for our rights in this area, and above all, get your M1 Garand as soon as you can, and never, ever, give it up.
Semper Fidelis,
Bill Mattocks
former Sgt, USMC (1979-1985)
PS - This little script below says far better than I ever could how I feel about the M1 Garand. It is not very "politically correct," and it may cause consternation in those of you who feel we'd all be safer if we ate lettuce and sat around thinking pure thoughts, but such is the cost of freedom. Some of you may recognize it:
United States Marine Corps
Rifleman's Creed
by
MGEN W.H. Rupertus, USMC
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life.
My rifle, without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will....
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but Peace!
:bow:
One additional thing to remember about a CMP Garand is that they were ALL built by U.S. govt. arsenals and those that were made under contract for the U.S. govt. by private contractors. They were inspected by U.S govt inspectors for all phases of manufacture. Metalurgy, dimensions, fit and finish, they were all checked. And then test fired before being accepted by the government inspectors.
There are some excellent copies of U.S. and foreign service rifles out there but there are some rather weak ones also. Especially in 30 caliber. There's not much out there in this day that can be had for the price that the CMP sells them for.
Again, if you want one get it while you can.
I ordered one right after my first Appleseed in May/09. Took about 3 months to get it as I recall.
The service grade Springfield was $595 + shipping. Around $615 total. Rec'v a 6 digit s/n gun (still not sure if that is good or bad or neither) with a new CMP Birch stock on it. Best $600 bucks I have ever spent.
Get 1 or 2......
My first CMP M1 Garand was ordered not long after my first Appleseed in the early fall of 2007.
First time I ever realized you could "track" a shipment through the internet and I did just that.
It got to Mechanicsville late on a weeknight and I checked the next morning and there was still no movement showing so I went to work.
I got to work and about an hour after my day started I checked and sure enough it had left Mechanicsville on its way to my house. I called my boss and told him I had to hurry up and get home or miss an important delivery that had to be signed for and I grabbed my stuff and went out the door.
I pulled up in the driveway (and parked behind the delivery van to block it in) as the driver was getting back in the van to leave after knocking on the door. I got out and she got out and she got the big box out of the van and I signed for it.
I spent the rest of the morning tearing it down to the last itty bitty piece and scrubbing the cosmoline residues off with carb. cleaner, hoppe's #9 and a tooth brush. I lubed it up, wiped it down with an oil rag and put it all back together.
I had a Dec. 1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand with its original barrel (a field grade rifle). I took it down to Ramseur a few weeks later to one of the field shoots. Back then they started on the 25 meter range with some 1" squares, AQTs, and coaching before moving over to the pop up range.
As I finished up that first 5 rounds the clip ejected from the rifle and I heard it hit to the right and slightly behind me. After I laid the cleared rifle down on the mat and turned around to pick up the empties and the clip the guy to my right was still sitting there with this big grin on his face. He said, "you just made my day. I love hearing that empty clip pop out of an M1."
I refinished the stock/handguards later and they were a beautiful and matching walnut with light and dark wavy bands running vertically up and down the stock.
I don't shoot it anymore. Its too pretty. 8) Actually I don't shoot it because I have another one that I fixed up so it works better for me (scout scope mount and LER scope on it so I can see to shoot it).
When you hold and M1 you are truly holding a piece of American history/heritage in your hands.
I received a bulletin from the CMP and Garand prices will be going up soon. There was no number given.
I got this message from CMP a couple days ago:
"We project that our item 4C3006X215-192P, (192 rounds of.30-06 ammo in clips and bandoleers) will sell out in the next week or two."
Better get 'em while the gettings good ;) :~
I just ordered some ammo for my Dad for Christmas and only the loose 200 round cans were available.. Sad day..... :'(
Quote from: TaosGlock on October 06, 2011, 02:24:00 AM
I got this message from CMP a couple days ago:
"We project that our item 4C3006X215-192P, (192 rounds of.30-06 ammo in clips and bandoleers) will sell out in the next week or two."
CMP updates (and rumors...so far unconfirmed...):
1) CMP's statements that orders, whether rifles, ammo, or "other," will take 30-60 days are quite accurate.
M1903A3 Springfield and M1917 US Enfield (Remington and Winchester, respectively) ordered Sept arrived via FedEx Wed. 12/1/11.
2) Heard rumor from usually-reliable source that CMP may soon be on receiving end of significant quantity
of .308/7.62 ammo - so much so that there are thoughts of redoing some Garands in .308 (which the Navy did back in the day (50s).
Excelsior,
madMark
PS Instructors have December to take advantage of the 2011 Instructor Purchase Programs from Ruger, Smith, and Henry. YOUR holiday present...
Just saw that the CMP has service grade M1's again with a 30-60 day wait.