Time to let the old thread go away.
Since some projects could not be accomplished, due to stinging critters and a location behind the KD backstop, a new work date of December 18-19 is planned.
Things to be done: Some of these tasks may be accomplished by the time it rolls around and will be edited accordingly.
1. Painting in the trailer
2. Underpinning on the trailer
3. Adding 3 poles, rafters and metal roof to the shelter left of the firing line. The metal needs to be scavenged from an old barn at the range.
4. Floor repairs in the trailer. In need of 3/4" plywood for this project.
5. Roof coating the trailer
6. A "FUN" project. There is more space, but a new "shed" needs to be constructed. Being the thrifty and imaginative person that I am, I am looking at constructing a shed out of square hay bales #) No laughing. I have been looking at cheap alternative construction ideas and came across this. There are still complete structures in Nebraska and currently companies in California, as well as 200+ year old homes in Europe. I have plenty of square bales, being that I make em, at my disposal. My plastering skills are lacking though(that IS the secret). I also think it could have a certain coolness factor to it as well as a rustic appearance, IMHO. This is an undertaking of mine, if there are any of you interested in trying this one, let me know.
As always, this date is weather dependant. If we miss out because of weather, so be it. We can try to reschedule.
Thanks to all that have helped with so much already.
Jason
I'll be there.
That hay bale shed sounds like a lot of fun.
Hmmm. Have to see if I have a vaca day left.
Will be there Thor.
I have been interested in straw bale for 30 years and would love to get in on that project.
The trick in a wet climate I am told is to have large eves to keep the bales dry.
--Joe
In my research, a large overhang isn't always needed. Your plastering mixture dictates the need. The more portland you use, the more moisture resistant. Otherwise you use limestone. When going for a waterproof exterior, you must not use portland on your interior in order for it to breathe. You have to have breathability to prevent moisture build up and mold growth.
I definitely have more questions than answers Thor.
I just remember the bits and pieces that I have picked up here and there.
Making the outside a less tight vapor barrier than the inside makes lots of sense to me.
I imagine you need some type of footer to keep the bales dry.
Are you thinking along the lines of a rubble trench? (cheap and quick)
Thor,
I'll be there!!
JG
Quote from: tittiger on October 27, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
I definitely have more questions than answers Thor.
I just remember the bits and pieces that I have picked up here and there.
Making the outside a less tight vapor barrier than the inside makes lots of sense to me.
I imagine you need some type of footer to keep the bales dry.
Are you thinking along the lines of a rubble trench? (cheap and quick)
A rubble trench is the cheapest, but I see a critter/bug nesting problem. I'm gonna go with concrete, it'll give me something to plaster seal against and provide a hard edge for a drainage trough around the building. I will also be incorporating re-bar into it.
how much plywood do we need?
Thursday mentioned that he can get some pieces about 3'x4'. I haven't measured the square footage yet. I will measure on Sunday, post on Monday.
Jason
P.S. I think a little tweaking is needed on the level of the trailer. Had a lot of people in there and it was set when the ground was soft-ish. The front door is a little hard to operate.
a 20 ft retired container does not look to rustic but is cheap, easy and locks up secure - you could stack straw on the sides and top, then frame a roof and plaster the sides to slow the rot - might even keep cool in summer
I can't say for sure but I'll sure try to come up and help. If I can make it I'll bring my framing tool and can tackle the rough-in carpentry work needed.
Guess this is as good a place as any to share this;
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/parkercustoms/appleseed026.jpg)
I took this with a little crappy pocket camera when I was checking targets on the KD range.
Turned out to be one of my favorite pictures, so I'm getting it blown up and framed!
I think that is Bonnie & Clydes old car, :~ :~ :---
Quote from: George63 on October 29, 2010, 05:11:43 PM
a 20 ft retired container does not look to rustic but is cheap, easy and locks up secure - you could stack straw on the sides and top, then frame a roof and plaster the sides to slow the rot - might even keep cool in summer
I would go this route, but very costly. A really bad one can be had for maybe $1500 in this area. Coating it with roofing paint stops the rot. I can build my bale structure for about $150 and some sweat equity. A standard frame construction building would require about $1000 and same said sweat equity. Funds, like most everybodies case, are thin and must be used conservatively.
This is also an experiment. I am looking to build a hunting cabin in the near future. The terrain will not allow large trucks to make it to the building site. An ATV with a 4x6 trailer is all I can get back there. I don't want to go cutting down trees and bulldozing a road, removing the beauty of the area and damaging the creek bed.
Not to great with hammers and nails, but I can paint and cook. See you there.
Dug
All right Susan!! you going to bring mom with you?
JG
Almost forgot, I have some chainlink fence to be stretched out and put on the gate posts to the nearest trees to close the gap on either side of the gates.
Thor,
Did you decide what tools we should bring? Chainsaws? Post hole diggers? Shovels?
Let me know...
Greg
I will post a list on 12/6. KR and I will be over there this weekend making a list of materials/tools we need to gather up for the weekend.
You bet George, Mom and I will make lunch on the 18th if we can get a rough head count.
O0
Quote from: Greg in MO on December 01, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Thor,
Did you decide what tools we should bring? Chainsaws? Post hole diggers? Shovels?
Let me know...
Greg
Ditto.
I'll be there Saturday. I am stepping up to a larger role in my Church so Sundays are becoming a problem.
Tool Needs: Battery drills, long heavy duty extension cord, pick axe or two, any helpful painting supplies(rollers, sprayers, brushes, pans, etc.), tin snips.
Materials: Master bedroom floor-14x16- 3/4" plywood
That should be all. We will have to skip the roof coating at this time because of temps, it'll be too thick to spread.
Have a bit of painting supplies, will bring what I have. Also have some paint, mostly flat white ceiling, if you want it.
Menu:
Chili
Cornbread
Apple cobbler
Thats the basics, will try to have a pot of something for those who don't like chili.
Figure so far on 12 to 16 people from what I have seen on here. Please let me know if my numbers are badly off.
Susan, you should hear from Thor shortly with a tentative head count. I am making Cochinita with tortillas to compliment the chili and account for any extra mouths. We should have it covered pretty well.
Thanks for helping out, see you this weekend.
KR
So when/where are we meeting? At the DAR Saturday morning? KR's/DAR Friday night? Just trying to do some planning...
Greg
Greg,
Don't rightly know...
If you need a warm place, you know my door's open. Play it by ear as to where we are Fri. nite, prob. the range. Now that we have a warm place there.
KR
Greg,
My cell works both at the range and at Kr's. Give it a try. Promise to have it on >:D
EEL
I'm going to be doing some baking - any requests? Looking forward to seeing you all!
CL
I would say the guess of 12-16 is about right, if not, we all get to eat more ;D
If you have some flat white ceiling paint to offer, I will accept it. I have some, probably enough to get through the weekend, but not enough for the whole thing.
There will be a bonfire Saturday evening. Got to burn some brush piles.
Painting, bonfires, food. If you were to throw in an Old Time band, you would have a barn raising or pig pickin', Southside Virginia style.
If the guys from the RBC show up with their instruments again, it will be ;D
Quote from: Cookie Lady on December 14, 2010, 08:56:43 AM
I'm going to be doing some baking - any requests? Looking forward to seeing you all!
CL
Any of your cookies will be good for me!!
JG
Ginger snaps please
Quote from: Cookie Lady on December 14, 2010, 08:56:43 AM
I'm going to be doing some baking - any requests? Looking forward to seeing you all!
CL
Truck is loaded. Have 4 sheets 3/4 CDX on board
I may have to no show. 2 out of 3 cars are broke down. I'll know more in awhile.
Yep, two bad batterys and maybe a starter...Joy... :wb:
Sorry we missed you Mike. We got a lot done and had a great time seeing everyone again.
I know what you mean about the vehicles. Put new struts and shocks on our van and managed to trash the stabilizer links. So it is out of action until I can get new parts tomorrow. The truck is having cooling system issues as well. Not sure when I will get to that.
Hope things worked out and you got your vehicles running.
Greg
My wives cousin married a mechanic. Managed to get the jeep running and got it to the shop. Got finished at 1300, but was needed at my church clearing snow and ice off the lot. I'm sore, tired, and sorry I missed out. :'(