Another very good AS day ;D
This was a small shoot regarding attendence -- but the attendees,interest persistence+ hard work made us all very proud of their fine efforts O0
Special thanx to the staff, Dano V, Savageshootr and Dando --all did an excelent job ,it was a pleasure to work with them ;D
Well as said last AAR -Im tired , sunburned and exhausted :o In other words I feel great .
JA
What a fabulous group of individuals out at the Piru, CA DAR today!
Thanks to all the attendees who made this a great day! The improvement of the redcoat tells the story. I'll post those numbers tomorrow.
Thanks Johnnyappleseed, Dano, V, and dando for coming out.
SS said it well , thanx to the excellent instructors ,and some of the most attentive attendees this shoot was a real pleasure.
Special TY to Dano + V for setting up the beautiful flag displays and fantastic stories ,strikes + DOM. Dano did a creative competion,
while V diligently ran the line --more on this later ;D
SS did the wedding that never was and it was powerful beyond words. ;)
New IIT Dando is a natural with line calling and keeping the line safe . TY Sir it was a pleasure to have you onboard.
We have a new Rifleman in Cali. with the addition jamminj ^5 sir. CONGRATULATIONS again, James
JA
I just got back and I am a bit tired out so I will keep this short. We had a great shoot in Piru. The weather was nice and the wind was minimal...nice shooting conditions. The attendees enjoyed the shoot, learned a lot and were a pleasure to spend time with. Thanks to everyone who came out and made this shoot a success. I took a lot of pictures and some are actually pretty good.
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JonnyAppleseed, SavageShooter, Dano, Dando and V. Thank you so much for your instruction and company this weekend. It was a great experience. We learned and improved a great deal over the two days of instruction.
I read this article this morning and thought I would share: http://bit.ly/cUN6pH
Roark and I are both looking forward to our next shoot.
Best,
-jimbo
TY Dando for posting the proffesional quality pictures O0
Hopefully we have a few of you working ;D
JA
Richard -- aka JohnnyAppleseed.
Boy, from the pictures, it looks like you guys have it easy. Even get to wear sweatshirts. Sighhhhhhh . . . . In Mississippi last weekend we didn't exactly have that luxury. Oh well, when you live near Hollywood . . . . ^:)^
As usual, your shoot looks calm, cool and collected with everybody happy. I certainly wouldn't expect anything less from an old USMC Non-Com. Congrats again.
See ya.
Dick
This Appleseed was the first for myself, and my wife. I learned so much that I see the value, and indeed the importance of the project. I have called already phoned a few of my friends, and will make the effort to bring people to the next meet at Burro Canyon. To my fellow Appleseeder's that attended it was a pleasure to meet such fine people, and to see JamminJ receive his Rifleman badge. To the instructors thank you for the honor of being a student, and teaching both myself and wife not only marksmanship, but the significance of having a sincere love of our nation. Thank you.
-Nathan
Looks like a great shoot JA. Nice to see you and SS at a shoot together :) O0 .
D-fly
It was a grand day, weather was nice, only about 90°, and very little wind by Piru Standards. I have posted more pictures of shooting and the Instrucotrs working for a living. Thanks to all the participants, as always I come away from these weekends renewed in the faith that America still has a heart beat!!
Dano
More pics
Dano
Making steady progress throughout the weekend, a few points at a time, I snuck past 210 on the second to last AQT of the weekend. O0
It was nice to meet the new folks as well as seeing some familiar faces. It would have been a fine day in any event but shooting rifleman certainly made it way better, I'm really quite proud. All in all, Piru was a more enjoyable shoot than Corona. Starting out more proficient with the rifle helped, as did the firing line sun shades, but the more even instructor to student ratio really made the difference. Without the one on one attention it probably would have taken another weekend to get there.
After consideration I did decide to give the IIT a shot, I'll be looking to get out at one of the August Appleseeds, either in Corona, Piru or Burro Canyon.
Just curious as to the opinions of the other attendees, were you to celebrate with a little something do you think a nice CMP Special/Correct grade Garand or an old school looking AR like Stag Arms model 4. Decisions, decisions... ::)
Quote from: jimbosway on July 12, 2010, 08:26:30 AM
I read this article this morning and thought I would share: http://bit.ly/cUN6pH
Nice to meat you Jimbo, Williams is always a good real.
Welcome aboard James O0
+ once again CONGRATULATIONS !
Looking forward to working with you again.
JA
Quote from: Rough Rider on July 12, 2010, 06:31:56 PM
This Appleseed was the first for myself, and my wife. I learned so much that I see the value, and indeed the importance of the project. I have called already phoned a few of my friends, and will make the effort to bring people to the next meet at Burro Canyon. To my fellow Appleseeder's that attended it was a pleasure to meet such fine people, and to see JamminJ receive his Rifleman badge. To the instructors thank you for the honor of being a student, and teaching both myself and wife not only marksmanship, but the significance of having a sincere love of our nation. Thank you.
-Nathan
Nice to meet you too, Nate. I hope we'll meet up a Burro Canyon. :)
Great link Jimbosway O0
Walter Williams views sure do the founders proud.
I am putting the website you posted on My favorites TY . I did not know of it before .
Looking forward to seeing You and Roark again -- You will make Rifleman next time out . However dry fire before the next shoot will get you their faster.
JA
JamminJ, I would choose the M
Quote from: JamminJ on July 13, 2010, 02:48:02 AM
Making steady progress throughout the weekend, a few points at a time, I snuck past 210 on the second to last AQT of the weekend. O0
It was nice to meet the new folks as well as seeing some familiar faces. It would have been a fine day in any event but shooting rifleman certainly made it way better, I'm really quite proud. All in all, Piru was a more enjoyable shoot than Corona. Starting out more proficient with the rifle helped, as did the firing line sun shades, but the more even instructor to student ratio really made the difference. Without the one on one attention it probably would have taken another weekend to get there.
After consideration I did decide to give the IIT a shot, I'll be looking to get out at one of the August Appleseeds, either in Corona, Piru or Burro Canyon.
Just curious as to the opinions of the other attendees, were you to celebrate with a little something do you think a nice CMP Special/Correct grade Garand or an old school looking AR like Stag Arms model 4. Decisions, decisions... ::)
I would choose the M1 garand as the celebration of receiving the rifleman. One day, you will never be able to have such a fine tool. You can always get a stag, but the M1 garand is a piece of history that is a prize worthy of a rifleman.
My vote is for the Garand.
Rough Rider we have Rifleman patchs for you and the Mrs .
Not sure what a stag arms is --but I favor .30
If Im not mistaken TR liked a 405 flat point :) His quote was something like "that 405 is bad medicine on lions " **) **) **)
Ah the good old days .To have one of us in the WH 8)
JA
Hi folks! :)
Wanted to say a couple of things... I have a lot to say, and it is a little long, so please bear with me! O0
Being at my first rifle training (or ANY training related to guns) was slightly overwhelming at first since I certainly did not know what to expect. But from the start when Nate and I first met JamminJ and Dano, then SavageShootr and Johnnyappleseed, I could easily tell that it was going to be a fun and friendly environment. It was a great first impression. :) Throughout the entire event, each instructor as well as every shooter there were kind, friendly, and respectful. That was a big deal to me. Upon that, I also wanted to give a BIG thank you to the instructors for treating me the way each of you did. That nasty car accident that I had nearly 2 years ago really messed up my body and it has been difficult for me to move around since. The fact that everyone was so understanding of my situation and very accommodating to me really made me feel comfortable and welcomed instead of shunned or looked down upon. It is a very difficult thing (and certainly a blow to my confidence) to have my mobility taken away from me in the blink of an eye and then to try to piece things back together again months and even years later just to get on with life. I was actually quite concerned about attending this event because I didn't think I would be able to accomplish the things necessary for the training (such as the transitions from standing to sitting or prone). But your helpful and understanding attitudes made it so much easier for me and actually encouraged me a lot. So with all sincerity, thank you!
So, all that said, I had a fantastic time! I learned SO much about shooting and was completely blown away by the immense knowledge that each of the instructors possessed about rifles and our country. Makes me ashamed that I do not know more about our history! Nate and I will definitely be attending the Burro Canyon event on Aug. 7th-8th and will be bringing a few friends. Not only is the training worthwhile, but the distinct focus on our American heritage moved our hearts and souls and definitely should not be kept to ourselves. It is obvious and truly wonderful to see that there are those around who love our country as much as we do. We clearly see the value of the Appleseed Project and will do all we can to make sure all of those around us know about it.
Thank you again to everyone for everything! :) What a blast! I'm definitely looking forward to August.
Now it's time to get to work by applying the training, reading up on our heritage, and to get the word out to others...
JamminJ,
I would definitely go with the Garand! The AR is a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. I'm actually in the process of building one from the ground up right now. But to me, the Garand is a special part of our American history. Rough Rider wants one, but we will hold out until he gets his Rifleman patch. Gives him something to shoot for, no pun intended. ;D I can't agree more with Rough Rider... it's definitely a prize worthy of a rifleman. :)
Be sure to update us with your decision!
JamminJ,
Go for the M-1, I own both the AR and the M-1, if I am shooting for maximun fun I will choose the M-1 everytime. Others have said it already but the M-1 will not always be available, only so many were made and too many where destroyed! By getting the M-1 you will be honoring the generation that saved this country.
The link below is for training videos on the the M-1 and covers most of what everyone was taught on the weekend. I would download the videos and pass the link on to others.
http://www.archive.org/details/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1.
Dano
Looks like it is unaminous JamminJ. Go for the Garand! You have earned it!
Welcome Deadeye Darlin! Glad you got on here and thank you for the report. You are too kind.
Welcome Rough Rider! Glad to have you onboard. It was a pleasure meeting you and your lovely bride. Thank You for your contributions to the event.
Welcome jimbosway! Glad to have you onboard. It was a pleasure to have you and your son at the Appleseed.
Chris, Glad you came out to improve.
Dale and Fred were another father and son pair. It was a pleasure meeting you both. Fred said that his son dragged him. **)
Eric, Hope you can make it for a two day event next time.
Thanks again to all of you for coming out.
SS
OK then, Garand it is! The AR can wait for another day.
It looks like a Springfield Armory in "Correct Grade" will be making the trip to California. Just have to wait for the RWVA member card to get here and off the order form goes!
Some eye candy borrowed directly from CMP:
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Quote from: JamminJ on July 14, 2010, 02:03:51 AM
OK then, Garand it is! The AR can wait for another day.
It looks like a Springfield Armory in "Correct Grade" will be making the trip to California. Just have to wait for the RWVA member card to get here and off the order form goes!
The Garand is a Rifleman's rifle, no doubt. Eventually you may want an AR as well, but Garand first, I'd agree.
If you want to save a few bucks, the Service Grades are looking quite good as well -- and no hard feelings when you accidentally scratch it. But it's your call.
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Welcome to the team! Wish I could have been there. I'll see you on the Trail.
RocketMan
Nice find.
We would have liked to see you out there too. It was a fun weekend. No one brought donuts. V did, however, bring watermelon and subway sandwiches.
See you on the trail.
SS
Looks like a shooter ---- Rocket man .
Wait until you see what dano has cooked up for 30 cal fun **) Oh its fun with RF too -- but the 30 kinda sets the pace .
O By the way the left won again :(
JA
Quote from: Dano on July 13, 2010, 08:19:18 PM
The link below is for training videos on the the M-1 and covers most of what everyone was taught on the weekend. I would download the videos and pass the link on to others.
http://www.archive.org/details/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1.
That's a really cool video. The instructors straightforwardness is refreshingly candid "we are teaching you to shoot so you can kill your enemies..." No winning hearts and minds there! I half expected him to light up a smoke. O0
Quote from: Rocket Man on July 14, 2010, 02:19:22 AM
If you want to save a few bucks, the Service Grades are looking quite good as well -- and no hard feelings when you accidentally scratch it. But it's your call.
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That rifle has a lot of character!
jamminj ^5 you're right " that is a really cool movie"
Dano Thanx for posting it 8)
JA
JJ,
I recently got my paws on a Special Grade one of the other guys here in Texas just got. Absolutely Beautiful. My Service grade is a hell of a shooter though. (that's it in the avatar)
G
Has anyone done a chrono test -- the shorter bbl (tanker model) vs standard MI Garand ?
JA
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Paperwork went off today, within 60 days I should be Garand-ified. :)
Quote from: JamminJ on July 20, 2010, 12:33:37 AM
Paperwork went off today, within 60 days I should be Garand-ified. :)
Awesome!!!
Got the shipping notification this afternoon! Should have the rifle in hand by Thursday. ^:)^
This should be fun!
That's great! I'm excited for you JamminJ! ;D
Quote from: JamminJ on August 18, 2010, 01:49:35 AM
Got the shipping notification this afternoon! Should have the rifle in hand by Thursday. ^:)^
This should be fun!
Awesome! Would it be greedy of me to ask that you post pictures when you get it? I would love to get one some time, so for now I will just have to live vicariously through those whom are getting them!
Jamminj--WOW!! Getting Your Garand sure was quick ;D
^5 to CMP
I too would like to see a picture of it . Good idea Mr Fancypants O0
Let us know how few the minutes too ;)
JA
Just checkin' in on how the Piru shoot went. Sounds like another good one! (Having qualified as Rifleman under JohnnyAppleseed, I know it must have been good.)
Hi, Dando! Well done with those photos! Man, being able to look at photos in these AAR's sure makes a difference.
Thanks also to Dano and JohnnyAppleseed for your photos as well.
You made the right choice, JamminJ! Hopefully your piece of history arrives tomorrow. We're looking forward to the pics. Enjoy!
JamminJ....
That is so cool! You will have to bring it out for show and tell!!
Tomorrow can't get here too quickly, eh? ;)
SS
Quote from: Mr.Fancypants on August 18, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: JamminJ on August 18, 2010, 01:49:35 AM
Got the shipping notification this afternoon! Should have the rifle in hand by Thursday. ^:)^
This should be fun!
Awesome! Would it be greedy of me to ask that you post pictures when you get it? I would love to get one some time, so for now I will just have to live vicariously through those whom are getting them!
Sure thing!
Quote from: SavageShootr on August 18, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
JamminJ....
That is so cool! You will have to bring it out for show and tell!!
Tomorrow can't get here too quickly, eh? ;)
SS
CMP really took be by surprise with how quickly they turned it around. I don't have a single round of ammunition for it, the Greek surplus stuff comes by ground delivery. Oh well, I'll have plenty of time to get the cosmoline out of it while I wait. The rifle is 60 years old, another couple of weeks won't make much difference.
JamminJ
Maybe you could find a Rifleman in WW2 or Korea who put the Garand to good use during one of America's wars for freedom.
I think Sgt York was WW1 and Sgt John Basilone was a machine gunner ,killed at Guadacanal .
Im drawing a blank on the garand hero's right now .
JA
The only other MoH winner that comes immediately to mind is Audie Murphy. I think he usually carried a garand but won the medal with a machine gun. There's a long list of heroic WW2 and Korean War MoH guys, it will probably be harder to narrow it down to just one! I'll do some surfing and check.
The Garand arrived yesterday, I'll have some pics up soon!
Audie Murphy favored the M1 Carbine.
The Garand had no shortage of fans, of course, most notably Patton. "The greatest implement of battle ever devised..."
Standing by for pictures!
Here we go!
First is the box as it arrived. In Alabama yesterday with overnight delivery right to my door. It's almost like living in a gun friendly state like Arizona!
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Well packed in foamy liners. Looks like we have a fine American steel butt plate peeking though!
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Here we have it. One lovely CMP Garand, Sweet!
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Another view. The wood has a couple of localized dings here and there but is otherwise quite nice with a rich auburn color. The receiver looks brand new, it had to have been remanufactured recently. Some light rubbing on the end of the gas tube near the front sights. I wonder what the little tag says...
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Why it claims this rifle is an M1, correct grade from Springield Armory. Sure, the tag says that, but how, oh how do I know it really is?
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Because it comes with a Certificate of Authenticity! OK, I'm convinced. I can rest easy now knowing my rifle isn't some Chinese commie knock off.
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What's next, shooting? Woah, not so fast brother. Check out all the cosmoline this thing is caked in. I'm going to have to read a few threads over at the CMP forums and figure out the best way to get it cleaned to shooting standards without poisoning myself.
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And here we have the happy owner posing with his fine weapon. I must say it has a lot of character just to hold, it feels far more substantial in my hands than an AR.
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And look who else can appreciate a fine rifle, the Mrs.! Fortunately she did not seize the opportunity to ask me about the Honey-do list while posing for this picture.
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That's it for now! There may be a little more later as this wasn't the only thing I ordered from CMP this time around...
Very, very nice.
Cleaning the cosmoline isn't that big of a deal -- mineral spirits will cut through it with ease. Or do it on the back porch where it's warm, and flows more easily. The good side about cosmoline is that it protects the metal, so lots of it == great rifle underneath.
I'm guessing you also got a bayonet? ;)
In a few days we'll ask you the next question: How's it shoot? :---
Bayonet? That's a pretty good guess, let's see...
Here's another box from CMP that arrived together with the Garand.
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Looks a little big for a bayonet but lets open her up and see. What do we have? Why, its another box!
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No one orders cardboard from CMP, lets open the inner box and see if things get more interesting. This is way better than a box, its a semi transparent plastic bag! Score!
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What? You think I should keep unpacking? Well, OK, but I just don't see how it can get any better than a semi transparent plastic bag. It's yellow for goodness sake! Holy smokes! There's another rifle in the bag!
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What kind could it be? Looks like a Kimber model 82. Why? Because everyone needs an eleven pound, single shot .22 rifle!
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I bought the "non rusty" version. Looks like the action is nice and clean. There's some crusty preservant all over the metal pieces that looks a bit like rust, but it wipes right off.
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Comes with a set of super fancy tech sights. This guy adjusts in 1/5 MOA clicks! Tell me you wont be able to make the Morgan head shot with that!
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Here's the bolt, on the "rusty" ones this is the part that needs a little TLC to get into shape. For the extra $200 mine came nice and clean, just a little packing grease to remove.
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Kinda neat, the butt stock is adjustable. The three spaces are removable so everyone can get a perfect fit.
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CMP says these come with razor scratches from when the bags were opened for inventory. If you look closely on the right hand manual you can see a vertical line. That's where my razor scratch went! The stock is absolutely perfect thanks to the manual taking the cut. I understand the "rusty" ones often have more severe cuts.
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I wanted a really nice bolt action 22 rifle since these can be shot at the local indoor ranges. I was thinking about a Ruger 77/22 or maybe even an Anschultz but since I was ordering CMP anyway why not give one of these a try. ..:..
Wow JJ -- an 11lb 22 from CMP -- besides a beautiful Garand . Next event we want to hear all about it O0
I really enjoyed the drama of your unpacking the boxes too ;D The suspence kept me at the edge of my chair :)
The only question still remaining is --- Will Mrs JJ use the new Garand for her RM patch or is there something else in the works? ;)
JA
QuoteAnd here we have the happy owner posing with his fine weapon rifle. I must say it has a lot of character just to hold, it feels far more substantial in my hands than an AR.
Hey JamminJ that is a beautiful RIFLE!
MrsJamminJ looks real good with it. I think it has her name on it.
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