Aromatic and heritic on the air in Lubbock. Very nice job of it too.
The commentator sure sounds like a friend of Appleseed. We need more friends like this
http://am580lubbock.com/images/podcasts/WWS_04.23.10.mp3
Looks like you need to set up an Appleseed in Lubbock.
Get with heretic, he is working a range for us O0
Great interview guys!
Thanks Sam and Spitstickler. David did a great job setting the interview up.
If we get a shoot set up out there, I may have to take a drive and check out East New New Mexico **)
Sorry I missed that one.
Lubbock, I believe that is East New Mexico, ashrn03's territory. Does he have any Appleseeders in that part of the country. Naw, that's those Texas Tech folks. I wonder if ... naw, they wouldn't be interested. Would they?
Hey ashrn03, whadya think we could mak'em part of Texas? You already do a great job with Amarillo and Midland. LBB would be a great draw for the college kids and rancher types.
POP
I suspect that between the two states we can manage to keep Lubbock covered until they can grow an instructor corps of their own.
Sam
Absolutely, Sam.
We need to pitch in and help ashrn03 develop his section of East New Mexico **) like we do elsewhere.
Sounds like its poised to take off.
Speaking of sound, I listened to part of that LBB Radio show. That Sounds Great. Thanks heretic, David, and aromatic. Ya'll did a super job. ;)
I'll bet the OHs and RHs from Fort Worth and Roswell areas would be there in a flash to help make it a success. Might even talk an old guy from Corpus into coming. ;D
POP
:~ :~ :~ ^:)^
Quote from: SamD on April 24, 2010, 02:02:42 AM
I suspect that between the two states we can manage to keep Lubbock covered until they can grow an instructor corps of their own.
Sam
Aromatic, David, and Heretic you all did a great job on the interview. While working the Fort Worth gun shows we did have folks from Lubbock come by the booth who were interested in a shoot. If we can find a range, starfox and I are fine with working a shoot in Lubbock. Let me know if you folks need anything to help set up a range or handouts for the gun shows.
The gun show went very well. I got 51 names with phone numbers and email addresses to contact when we get a date set.
Many good comments. Most had never heard of Appleseed, but we did pass out lots of cards, trifolds and targets. One tip: Have a bottle of water in hand when you do that much talking $$-0. Very nearly lost my voice.
You know, it's amazing how two pretty girls with two and three shoots under their belts can get guys to put their names and numbers down on a list ::)
We also had several people say they thought they could get us a place to shoot. They would speak with landowner or "dad". I have a couple of definite offers, but they are about an hour from Lubbock. I think I can get a little closer though. I will not drag my feet though.
Thanks for all the help, folks. Thanks to Aromatic for the radio call-in, spitstickler for the trifolds, SamD standing by and all others support. I ordered some AQTs and Redcoats and Fred threw in some extras. (I think I have enough still to hold a shoot)
Y'all are a great group.
David "heretic"
BTW, I had the TSRA North Texas Regional Director all but swore he was coming to a shoot with family. He wants me to let him know when we get it set up here. He also expressed an interest in doing whatever TSRA could do to assist us. I did not pursue this with him. He just wanted to get TSRA involved if there was a way.
Quoteit's amazing how two pretty girls with two and three shoots under their belts can get guys to put their names and numbers down on a list
A true statement so you best get rolling and get more pretty girls into the program
Now if we could just pin down a range :(
nm
If my memory serves me correctly ++), there is an old range out northwest of Reese Center, don't know the exact location though.
There used to be a private range out south of Wolfforth on 179, it was good for 250 yds.
The range NW of Reese center is now property of the Sherriff's office. Tried to work with them with negative results. Owner of private range south of Wolfforth is not at all interested in anything but bench shooting and not inviting anyone else in.
I"m talking with Dub at Rustic Range at Slaton and he is trying to work something out with us. Since it is a commercial range, I don't yet know if or how much charges there will be. I did explain this is a volunteer organization. He is showing an interest and is talking with me on this. I was shown three different spots at the range, but will need to have a shoot boss look at it. Let me find out if he's gonna charge us first.
I'm still trying to find other places. I have one farmer who might let us use a caliche pit.
Still working on this and will let y'all know as soon....
Heretic.
So, what is the latest on getting an Appleseed shoot to the Lubbock area? Any prospects?
Don't know about Lubbock, but there's three events in Midland and we'd love to have you.
February 26-27
April 30-May 1
November 12-13
See attached.
Edited to add dates and update flyer.
Ol Kev, Don't know where you live from Lubbock but we'll have one in Roswell, March 19-20. About 2 hour drive...O.L.
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19340.0
Quote from: oladcock on December 28, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
Ol Kev, Don't know where you live from Lubbock but we'll have one in Roswell, March 19-20. About 2 hour drive...O.L.
Quote from: wcmartin1 on December 28, 2010, 01:29:28 PM
Don't know about Lubbock, but there's three events in Midland and we'd love to have you.
February 26-27
April 30-May 1
November 12-13
See attached.
Edited to add dates.
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19340.0
Got the M-I-L in Roswell, which means a place to stay . . .
Missed the Midland dates on the lookup . . . Midland would be closer.
I'm also trying to gauge some interest here at work. Is it iron sights only or can you use a scope on the qualification? I had refractive surgery years ago and my eyes are all messed up.
You can use any sights you want Ol Kev, we ain't picky.
Helps alot if you have a sling installed too.
We ever find a range over there we'll get it going but haven't had any luck at all.
I was in Lubbock a few months ago and left some flyers at Rustic Range. The guys there seemed pretty enthusiastic about the program, just need someone local to do some more follow-up. O0
I'm willing to help if Lubbock gets a shoot and needs it. Wife's mother lives in Hale Center...free place to stay for me.
Also may help out in Midland in March if they need it an NM shoots don't conflict. My mother lives in Midland...free place to stay.
-David
Edgewood, NM
I talked with heretic the other day.
we'll find a place yet.
I cannot believe that no one in Tx has a range ++)
OK, ya'll -
If nothing pans out in Lubbock, Midland is now officially on the schedule for 2011 and we'd love to have you - http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19666.0
Git-R-Done!
I sent an email to Robert Pratt today with "Pratt on Texas" afternoon talk radio show on KFYO.
He said, "I've had someone from the Appleseed Project on the show before. I'll try and do so again sometime."
So, maybe we can stir things up a little around here, especially if more people will press Pratt to talk about Appleseed again.
BTW, there is a gun show in Lubbock this coming weekend. Does Appleseed set up booths at gunshows?
Quote from: Ol Kev on January 06, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
BTW, there is a gun show in Lubbock this coming weekend. Does Appleseed set up booths at gunshows?
Hey Kev,
David (a.k.a. Heretic) is in or close to Lubbock and I think he set up an Appleseed at a show there last year. Get in touch with him and see what materials he has. There is no formal group that sets up and does the gun shows. It's all up to "We the People" ;)
We try to share resources as best we can, (banners, printed collateral, etc) but for the most part it just takes someone to call the organization putting on the show, get a booth reserved (usually for free since we are non-profit 501(3)c), gathering up materials, and then work the event. It's actually pretty fun and you will get a chance to talk to a lot of people.
Sounds like you are ready to keep spreading the word, maybe you and Heretic can hook up and make it happen? If you need support for additional materials, just shout out and I will do my best to help you out.
Thanks!
I went to the gun show yesterday and I'm very confident we now have a place. ^:)^ It's an outdoor pistol range in Slaton, just outside of Lubbock. Spoke with the president and he says we can make it work and no range fees. Says he's been wanting to attend an AS.
I'll try and go look at the range this week and then get SamD or another shoot boss to approve it.
I've talked with Pratt, but he's involved with a business that teaches CHL and other gun safety/personal defense. He thought it might conflict. He is definitley "one of us", just needs more people contacting him to help promote AS on his "Pratt on Texas" show.
Also other radio stations and perhaps one television station that would promote it. Just gotta get the shoots going. Lots of interest here in Lubbock judging from the gun shows. I'll let y'all know after I look at the range.
Heretic.
SWEEEET!
Quote from: heretic on January 10, 2011, 02:36:38 PM
I went to the gun show yesterday and I'm very confident we now have a place. ^:)^ It's an outdoor pistol range in Slaton, just outside of Lubbock. Spoke with the president and he says we can make it work and no range fees. Says he's been wanting to attend an AS.
I'll try and go look at the range this week and then get SamD or another shoot boss to approve it.
I've talked with Pratt, but he's involved with a business that teaches CHL and other gun safety/personal defense. He thought it might conflict. He is definitely "one of us", just needs more people contacting him to help promote AS on his "Pratt on Texas" show.
Also other radio stations and perhaps one television station that would promote it. Just gotta get the shoots going. Lots of interest here in Lubbock judging from the gun shows. I'll let y'all know after I look at the range.
Heretic.
I was re-reading this post and of all people, I don't think Pratt gets it. Appleseed participants could potentially be a source of students for him. All of his stuff focuses on basic handgun training and concealed carry. As I understand it, Appleseed is the foundation of marksmanship in general, rifles in particular with the history element thrown in to educate what the founding fathers meant regarding the second amendment and the issues founding the country. To me his training would follow Appleseed, not compete with it. To really get him on board would be huge because he has such a large drive time and his show is now on in the Abilene area.
Do you really think he understands what Appleseed is all about?
OK Texas,
I am in serious negotiation with a place near Lubbock and have suggested March 5-6 or April 2-3 simply because those dates fit in with my inst staff here in SENM.
Are you READY?
How READY?
Start holding your breath.
Nothing signed yet and I haven't had a chance to scope it out yet but it smells real sweet.
Quote from: heretic on June 23, 2010, 01:00:22 AM
I"m talking with Dub at Rustic Range at Slaton and he is trying to work something out with us.
I miss Dub, I spent nearly every weekend out there when I was in the USAF. I know the range in Slaton also, good place. Wish I was there with you.
Have a good shoot.
YHJ
The place I got the "go" near Slaton is a pistol range in a canyon. Really tight spaces, but I'll talk with the "man" this week to see what may work. It was indicated they might could push some dirt around and make it bigger.
But, I also got an enthusiastic, "Yes" to use a place one mile out of city limits in Lubbock. I took the land owner's son to Amarillo in September and they are excited to be able to host an AS. He has a front end loader with a blade on his tractor and says he could build a backstop easy. They are ready to do it. Just need to get Sam or someone out to look at it. Whether it's Sam's spot or one or both of these, let's stack 'em up. We already have a list of contacts of people wanting to attend.
Quote from: heretic on January 23, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
The place I got the "go" near Slaton is a pistol range in a canyon. Really tight spaces, but I'll talk with the "man" this week to see what may work. It was indicated they might could push some dirt around and make it bigger.
But, I also got an enthusiastic, "Yes" to use a place one mile out of city limits in Lubbock. I took the land owner's son to Amarillo in September and they are excited to be able to host an AS. He has a front end loader with a blade on his tractor and says he could build a backstop easy. They are ready to do it. Just need to get Sam or someone out to look at it. Whether it's Sam's spot or one or both of these, let's stack 'em up. We already have a list of contacts of people wanting to attend.
O0 I don't usually like to wander that far from home, but I'm ready.
Quote from: heretic on January 23, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
The place I got the "go" near Slaton is a pistol range in a canyon. Really tight spaces, but I'll talk with the "man" this week to see what may work. It was indicated they might could push some dirt around and make it bigger.
But, I also got an enthusiastic, "Yes" to use a place one mile out of city limits in Lubbock. I took the land owner's son to Amarillo in September and they are excited to be able to host an AS. He has a front end loader with a blade on his tractor and says he could build a backstop easy. They are ready to do it. Just need to get Sam or someone out to look at it. Whether it's Sam's spot or one or both of these, let's stack 'em up. We already have a list of contacts of people wanting to attend.
Count me in - I'm one of them and have some interest from some people at work too.
Was promoting the Midland events at a gunshow in Odessa this morning and ran into a lady who said she had a range in Slaton and someone had approached her about having an event there and she was thinking about it. I told her about the program and gave her a flyer.
Coincidence? 8)
That's the pistol range I mentioned. I'm gonna try to meet her husband there today or tomorrow.
Some pretty narrow lanes but we're going to explore some options. If any shoot bosses are in the neighborhood, let me know and we can go look at that one and another place a friend of mine owns.
Actually the place we are dickering with and most likely to hold one at is the IPSC range NW of Levelland.
That'll work! Get us a date and we'll get the word out. Heck, lets do both March and April ;D
Give me the word and the better half and I'll make a road trip with shoot application in hand. Get-r done! :) Thanks to all beating the bushes on this!....O.L.
Just got off the phone with a friend who has been working the BOD of West Tx Practical Shooters.
We have a range folks. Approx 9 miles NW of Levelland Tx..
2-3 April should be our weekend, pending a physical survey of the range, a signed shoot agreement and a copy of the insurance cert in their hands.
They have 100 yards available, should be able to accommodate 25-30 shooters.
Who is ready to do BOTG for this one?
I need names and commitment NOW!
heretic, can you get back on AM580?
Ready to send the emails to those 51?
OlKev ready to start passing flyers?
Rest of Tx, out seventh stepping?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
Quote from: SamD on February 02, 2011, 02:15:25 PM
Just got off the phone with a friend who has been working the BOD of West Tx Practical Shooters.
We have a range folks. Approx 9 miles NW of Levelland Tx..
2-3 April should be our weekend, pending a physical survey of the range, a signed shoot agreement and a copy of the insurance cert in their hands.
They have 100 yards available, should be able to accommodate 25-30 shooters.
Who is ready to do BOTG for this one?
I need names and commitment NOW!
heretic, can you get back on AM580?
Ready to send the emails to those 51?
OlKev ready to start passing flyers?
Rest of Tx, out seventh stepping?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
When the flyers arrive in my left hand, they will quickly be going out of my right hand . . .
We have Gander Mountain to try, Sharp Shooters, Fred's, Academy, LSG Tactical Arms, West Texas Military Surplus, Patriot Indoor Range; and, I have some interest here at work. I'm sure there are some forums on the internet as well.
Let me know!
Sorry, just got back in town. I will begin sending out heads up to email addresses have. When we get a lock on the date I will send another 1 out with a link for registering.
Things are really looking up. Thanks for all the work SamD.
Cool!
In the meantime, you're still welcome in Midland - http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19666.0
:cool2:
Latest update,
OL made a site survey yesterday. Conditions are primitive but usable. Space for 25-30 shooters.
Soon as we get the shoot agreement back it'll be on teh schedule for 2-3 April.
Toilet facilities= beyond primitive
No water
Camping available but that means camping, none of that hot tub KOA crap, you gonna have to be didicated.
Lubbock contingent, start lining up advertisers, radio spots etc.
Quote from: SamD on February 17, 2011, 09:52:40 AM
Toilet facilities= beyond primitive
No water
Camping available but that means camping, none of that hot tub KOA crap, you gonna have to be didicated.
Sounds like
our kind of campground......
Marking my calendar.
Sounds like another adventure to me!!! O0
let me know when, i'll be there ;D
To our LBOTG :sos: Try posting for the shoot on Craigslist, facebook, twitter, etc...
Any and all marketing is allowed :---
Okay, I just sent out a heads up to all the addresses gathered at two local gun shows. Sending out more to personal contacts. Will continue beating the bushes.
Quick question: I called around for quotes on port-a-potties and the lowest I got was for two of them for a total of right at $150.00.
Is this something worth exploring?
heretic.
I first heard of Appleseed down at a gunshow in Midland a few years back. At the time the cost and availability of ammo was prohibitive. I was lucky to find a single box of primers much less enough primers to load 1,000 rounds. I've since signed up at Lubbock gun shows hoping for one in the Lubbock area and eagerly look forward to attending this one however I have quite a few questions. Some of which should be on the fliers.
First question is about the number of rounds needed. Even today 1,000 rounds isn't cheap. I reload so that's 1,000 primers and thousand bullets plus powder. Factory rounds your talking a min of $180 for 30.06 and around $100 to reload. Many will want to purchase ammo there if it is possible. If so what calibers, what cost and such should be made known. A related question is how many rounds per day?
Next quesiton, the Midland flier seemed to imply only iron sights were allowed. Is this true or can scoped rifles be used? Are AK style semi-auto weapons allowed?
I frequently shoot at Rustic (the range in Slaton I think that was referenced a few times) The rifle range only goes to 100 yards. The operators are very fussy. There is a ranch on the other side of the backstop so they restrict quite a few activities and get rather testy if you do things like rapid fire. From what I understand 500+ yards is a key element of the training. It's the big lure for me personally. I want to be able to group at 500-1000 yards. So what is the distance of the Levelland event? Rustic will probably prove unsuitable for Appleseed unless a new section is created. The plus side of Rustic is they do have a well stocked supply of every commonly fired round at very reasonable prices.
What is covered in which day? I can probably only afford to attend for one day and want to get the most bang for the buck (excuse the pun).
Sounds like y'all could use some volunteers as well. But what areas you need help in and how to sign up to help out is not obvious. I live in Lubbock so I'd be happy to go out and help set up before the event, help distribute fliers, send out emails, etc. BTW you left off Freds and the gun store out in BFE that I can never remember the name of as well as Academy. All places shooters in Lubbock frequent. There are also 3 or 4 commercial reloaders. I know a couple of them. They would likely be happy to distribute fliers for the event.
I'm posting here because the Midland flier does not answer any of these questions nor does the email I received nor can the information be found on any of the websites listed in connection with the events.
PMed. Talk with you soon.
heretic.
Quote from: Draciron on February 18, 2011, 01:29:57 AM
I'm posting here because the Midland flier does not answer any of these questions nor does the email I received nor can the information be found on any of the websites listed in connection with the events.
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?board=170.0
http://appleseedinfo.org/as_prepare.html
http://appleseedproject.blogspot.com/
Draciron, I'm not sure who'll shoot boss this event yet, might be me, but the SB can do a full/known distance portion if the range will allow it and the SB wants to. This one we might be able to get 200 yards but not easily. However fundamentals are fundamentals, trigger control is trigger control, an MOA is an MOA no matter what caliber rifle is in your hands. The work we do at 25 meters translates directly to 100 or 1000 only minus trajectory and wind, which we'll discuss. What I'd suggest is use a .22 Saturday and maybe half of Sunday, then if you want to bring out the big gun during the AQT grind Sunday afternoon, do so. It'll save you lots of $$$ in ammo plus give you a chance to get the fundamentals down before getting knocked around with a larger gun. Hope to see you there! :)....O.L.
HEY LUBBOCK!
Y'ALL COME SHOOT IN MIDLAND THIS WEEKEND AS A WARM UP FOR YOUR APPLESEED...
UNLESS YOU'RE SCARED OR SOMETHING.
:---
GIT-R-DONE!
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19666.0
Don't tempt me. >:D I'm kinda hanging in the balance right now. Waiting to see how many Big rats I gotta kill here first. Trying to get a local down there to go.
Hey Lubbock,
Work the promo on your shoot.
I've painted over my, "The End is Soon!!!" walking billboard, and put on it, "LEVELLAND APPLESEED on April 2-3" and I'm standing on the corner right now. Grabbin' folks at the Wal-Mart ammo counter ~~:), and burning it up on LubbockAppleseed@yahoo.com. Hopefully a radio spot before long.....
Talked to my POC yesterday and he's been sick. Hope to have the host app in hand today or tomorrow so we can get her on the schedule....O.L.
Ok guys, looks like we're on the board! I can smell gunpowder over Levelland already! :)...O.L.
Quote from: oladcock on March 08, 2011, 01:49:40 AM
Ok guys, looks like we're on the board! I can smell gunpowder over Levelland already! :)...O.L.
In case you haven't found it here's the link - http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=21209.msg165842#msg165842
Hope y'all have a great shoot!
Git-R-Done! :---
Seventeen out of 30 spots left. In less than 24 hours, almost half gone. Better git signed up while the signin's good!!
Come on to Lubbock!! Err....Levelland, that is..
Quote from: heretic on March 08, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Seventeen out of 30 spots left. In less than 24 hours, almost half gone. Better git signed up while the signin's good!!
Come on to Lubbock!! Err....Levelland, that is..
I heard that the camping was primitive, but good, in Levelland NM. **)