Welcome to the NY Appleseed board!
If you are new to the program post a hello here and you can connect with others in your area.*
Questions about any NY shoots?
Questions about the program in general?
Questions about how to help bring Appleseed to your home range?
My self and the NY team are here to help.
*I have been meaning to put this thread up for a while. People new to the program can not start a topic and did not have a place to ask questions.
Quote from: KKA on March 16, 2010, 11:17:26 PM
I'm new here. Just learning how to navigate around. I'm not an Appleseed participant - my better half is. I am in the beginning stages of learning to shoot. Someday soon I hope to be able to complete an entire weekend of an Appleseed shoot.
Welcome. Spend some time poking around.
Are you and your better half registered for a April 17-18 shoot in NY?
So I'm going to my first Appleseed in a couple of weeks. Couple of things. First I can't seem to start my own post, not sure why, but new post tab isn't available.
Second, does anyone have any info on the New Bremen shoot coming up in June?
I'm going to this one but had some questions about camping on site. I have a long drive to get there so I wanted to find out if camping Friday night is allowed.
Also is there someone I have to notify that I will be coming? I had signed up for the Albion shoot but it was canceled and New Bremen was offered. I replied to the email I received but, I like to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Thanks for the help
Quote from: ch45x7 on May 25, 2010, 04:50:20 AM
So I'm going to my first Appleseed in a couple of weeks. Couple of things. First I can't seem to start my own post, not sure why, but new post tab isn't available.
Second, does anyone have any info on the New Bremen shoot coming up in June?
I'm going to this one but had some questions about camping on site. I have a long drive to get there so I wanted to find out if camping Friday night is allowed.
Also is there someone I have to notify that I will be coming? I had signed up for the Albion shoot but it was canceled and New Bremen was offered. I replied to the email I received but, I like to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Thanks for the help
Welcome.
The inability to start a post could be a couple of things.
1. This is a working forum not a chat forum and the intention was to help curve idle chit chat. Success of that is debatable.
2. You did not see this post on how to get involved with your state. http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=8534.0 Not shocked that you did not see it lost in all the idle chit chat.
3. Something not quite right with your "account" or the forum itself. I know very little about it but I do know that some very talented
volunteers are working hard to come up with a better plan/system/forum
After hearing of some users not being able to start a thread is when this "Welcome" thread was started. Kind of a place to do just what you did.
"Info on the New Bremen shoot coming up in June?"
OK, everything I know in 100 words or less....
Free on site camping is available Friday and Saturday. As of now two of NY's finest are signed up to Instruct and they are due at the range Friday afternoon. Another D.O.M and Josey Wales are their screen names here if you would like to touch base with them. Shoot Boss
TBD but most likely will be Boltgun71. A man who knows very well what he is about. The range has real restrooms (minus showers) a stove and a refrigerator. Water is not drinkable. Contained campfires are allowed, bring your own wood. Mosquitoes are epic. I could tell you stories but better to have you tell me them after the shoot. 25 meters, 100, 200, 400 yard lanes.
Thanks for the quick update Ed!
I plan to head out for New Bremen early to mid morning on Friday the 11th; Google Maps says it's about a two hour 45 minute drive for me and I expect to arrive at the range somewhere between 1 and 3. The plan at this point is to set up the target & firing lines during the afternoon and then wait for campers to arrive to greet them and help them get settled in. Nick (Josey Wales) and I don't plan to camp, we'll share a room in town for the weekend; and John (Boltgun71) says he lives close enough to the range to drive home each night.
If you have any questions at all please do not hesitate to contact me - you can send me a PM through this forum, you can email mjanspacher@gmail.com or you can call me at 518-282-4759.
We're looking forward to another fabulous Appleseed weekend in upstate NY. See you on Friday!
MJA
Thanks for the quick replies and the info. My questions about the shoot seem to be answered, the question about why I can't start a thread I'm not going to worry about.
That weekend can't come soon enough. I'm going to try to get my .22 sighted in this weekend if I can find land. I also plan on bringing my Garand and M44 for the longer range shooting. I don't get to shoot these nearly as much as I would like.
So I guess I will be showing up late afternoon/early evening. Just wish I could have convinced others to come along; maybe I will have better luck once I can give them first hand knowledge.
FNG here . . . I plan to attend the New Breman Appleseed June 12 - 13. Can I shoot the whole course with a Ruger 22LR? I believe in the "KISS Principle", so I do not want to bring the M1 or M14 unless we will be required to be shooting way out there . .
Do you have 10/22 loaners if I bring a buddy with no rifle?
Also, how bad are the Mosqitos and Black Flies??
Quote from: The Postman on June 04, 2010, 11:45:18 PM
FNG here . . . I plan to attend the New Breman Appleseed June 12 - 13. Can I shoot the whole course with a Ruger 22LR? I believe in the "KISS Principle", so I do not want to bring the M1 or M14 unless we will be required to be shooting way out there . .
Do you have 10/22 loaners if I bring a buddy with no rifle?
Also, how bad are the Mosqitos and Black Flies??
New Bremen will have known distance shooting so bring the center fire if you have it. "Way out there"? Max KD at NB is 400 yards.
Bring your buddy and check with Another D.O.M to see if he has a loaner available.
" Mosqitos and Black Flies??" I did not see any black flies in the last 2 June shoots but Mosquito's were big, bad, and determined. Don't want to scare anyone away but I would be negligent if I did not tell you about them.
Nice,
Team NY Gearing Up, Packing Up and Moving out again. ..:..
Proud O0
My next AS is following weekend in Bennington Vt. w/ Crak and Buzzworth.
Got the AS fever, have to keep seeding.
A/DOM need anything I got for next weekend?
ch45x7 QuoteJust wish I could have convinced others to come along; maybe I will have better luck once I can give them first hand knowledge.
Be prepared to learn, you will be spending this weekend with some of the best NY has to offer. top shelf good people. You will have plenty to share with your friends to bring them along to the next NY AS.
QuoteI also plan on bringing my Garand
Nice, respect this Rifle for what it is, one of the best ever produced. Enjoy your weekend. Then watch for the AAR after to share with your friends.
Hey there,
I'm new to this forum thing so bear with me... My father and i attended an Appleseed in Slippery Rock PA over this past weekend and i have to say it was great!! Despite some soaking rain at the end of our first day we had an amazing time and learned a lot. Our instructor (Spanner) along with his IIT's were great and taught us a great deal. You guys are running a great program and i hope to attend another Appleseed in the future, preferably in my home state of NY next time!
Hello Longshot91 - welcome to the forum and welcome to Appleseed!
Yes, Appleseed tends to grab hold of you and not let go; and it's a good feeling! I'm glad you enjoyed your weekend in Slippery Rock. I have worked with Spanner several times in the past and I have a great deal of respect and admiration for him - in my opinion he's one of the best.
We have many Appleseed events scheduled in NY over the course of this summer, beginning with New Breman (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11098.0) June 12 & 13, then Throop (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=13788.0) July 10 & 11, followed by Burlington Flats (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=10088.0) July 17 & 18 (this one is sold out), then on to Van Etten (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11097.0) August 21 & 22 and then several during September (see the current schedule at http://www.appleseedinfo.org/as_schedule2.php (http://www.appleseedinfo.org/as_schedule2.php)). Depending upon your location within NY you might also consider another 'border raid' into VT for Bennington (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11261.0) June 19 & 20 or August 14 & 15 (a Bennington Battle Day celebration). We are also in the planning stages of several more NY events through the end of the year, so check the schedule often for updates.
Please consider becoming active on the State level by visiting Getting Connected and Active with Appleseeders in your State (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=8534.0). As a rapidly growing organization, Appleseed needs many volunteers for a variety of tasks that need to be completed - and you can help!
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions - I can be reached by PM on the forum, by wemail at mjanspacher@gmail.com, by phone at 518-282-4759, or by mail at Mark Anspacher, 81 New Shaker Rd., Albany NY 12205.
Thanks for responding on this thread, and again, welcome!
Quote from: B9 on June 05, 2010, 10:49:50 AM
Quote from: The Postman on June 04, 2010, 11:45:18 PM
Also, how bad are the Mosqitos and Black Flies??
" Mosqitos and Black Flies??" I did not see any black flies in the last 2 June shoots but Mosquito's were big, bad, and determined. Don't want to scare anyone away but I would be negligent if I did not tell you about them.
The mosquitos and black flies aren't bad, they're
much worse!
I've spent plenty of time at nearby Ft Drum, as well as a couple of trips to New Breman, and can tell you they are as bad at New Bremean as they are on Ft Drum.
You really need to consider bringing that M1, but if you don't have a center fire, don't worry, your .22 will go out to 100 yards, no problem. With a little work (calculating the come-ups), it will go out to 400.
And, I'll through out a shameless pitch for one of the better events for the area, Jericho, VT, for those of you New Yorkers that leave in the eastern Adirondack and Albany area. A good time to get some time in on the KD range, and we will be shooting FD/AQT's on Sunday afternoon. For Jericho, you really do need a centerfire with you on Sunday. We've got a good crew there, so we can help you figure out the needed adjustments, and we may even sneak in a 600 yard volley, time permitting (we MUST end shooting no later than 3:59 on Sunday). Dates are 10-11 July and 12-13 September. Primitive camping is OK on site. You might get a Saturday lullaby courtesy of any troops doing night firing (and at least one unit plans on night firing 12 Sep).
Quote from: The Postman on June 04, 2010, 11:45:18 PM
Also, how bad are the Mosqitos and Black Flies??
The black flies are friendly, and will come right up to you.
I'm new to Appleseed shooting, maybe I'll go to one this year if i find one close. O0
So where do you live? (county) if not in NY what state?
Check the schedule on the home page and see,
Just checking in and saying hi. I am new to the forum, but not new to Appleseed. I am boltgun71's better half. I have been to 6 to 7 Appleseed's and just recently shot rifleman, and now I am volunteering to be an IIT. 8)
Quote from: Mind Games on July 04, 2010, 09:38:15 PM
Just checking in and saying hi. I am new to the forum, but not new to Appleseed. I am boltgun71's better half. I have been to 6 to 7 Appleseed's and just recently shot rifleman, and now I am volunteering to be an IIT. 8)
Dog help us.
Welcome to the forum.
Squirrel!
Welcome Mind Games
Glad to have you with us!!
sgtrock
Hey B9,,,that's quite an avatar. The patriots' I'm acquainted w/ are more than a little hoary & grizzled. ;)
Quote from: Mind Games on July 04, 2010, 09:38:15 PMJust checking in and saying hi. I am new to the forum, but not new to Appleseed. I am boltgun71's better half. I have been to 6 to 7 Appleseed's and just recently shot rifleman, and now I am volunteering to be an IIT. 8)
Well hello there Sam! It's great to hear from you, and great to hear you've achieved the Rifleman patch. If you don't mind me asking, what was it that put you 'over the top'? I know we worked on a few different things at New Bremen (not counting the rain dripping down your back from the canopy).
I'll update the New York List of Instructors (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=10358.0) with your info - welcome to the New York Instructor team, and thank you!
MJA
Quote from: KodyJaret on July 05, 2010, 05:15:35 AM
Hey B9,,,that's quite an avatar. The patriots' I'm acquainted w/ are more than a little hoary & grizzled. ;)
Hope JW and Pepsi don't mind me borrowing their beautiful children. They are what I do this for.
Quote from: Another D.O.M. on July 05, 2010, 11:31:25 AM
Well hello there Sam! It's great to hear from you, and great to hear you've achieved the Rifleman patch. If you don't mind me asking, what was it that put you 'over the top'? I know we worked on a few different things at New Bremen (not counting the rain dripping down your back from the canopy).
MJA
Well, Boltgun had me do an AQT with no time on purpose to eventually make me realize what I was doing wrong and what I should keep the same. And it worked perfectly. I figured out why I was always pulling my first shot, and on that first AQT with no time, I only scored a 204. But it took me an hour to shoot it lol. I think it could possibly be the longest AQT in history lol. But then he made me shoot a couple more with time, and I only got a 198 (my highest score at that point), and then a 185. So the "mind games" started to play a big part in it, I just kept getting so frustrated and kept telling myself that I couldn't do it. Well, with those two scores of course knowing me I got mad and he wanted me to do two more and I didn't want to, but I did them anyways. But because I didn't want to shoot them I didn't care how I did, and it was on the second one that I got a 221! Therefore, the biggest issue for me was the mental issue, once I stopped caring and just started shooting I did fine, and I scored a rifleman's score finally! :)
Yep, Don't Fuss The Shot,,,
I may use your story to inspire people at other shoots,,, sometimes it takes just what you did to get the job done,,, Perfection is the enemy of just good enough,,,
Nice job,, M.G.
sgtrock
Hello,
Checking in after newly registering. I'll be attending my 2nd Appleseed in Bennington in August.
Yeap, I've got the Appleseed Inspiration! :)
Gary
Hello Gary and welcome to the New York board! I think you'll like the range in Bennington - nice covered firing line, fantastic scenery, 500m target line.
FYI, if you use GPS or Google Maps to get directions they will take you to someone's house at the end of a dead-end street. Try this link instead: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=County+Rd+153%2FWolf+Rd&daddr=Phylis+Ln+to:42.949324,-73.188+to:684+Rod+Gun+Club+Rd,+Shaftsbury,+VT+05262&geocode=FX_MiwIdB7-Z-w%3BFXmpjgIdF8yi-w%3B%3BFVmDjwIdL0aj-ymHM-Z8f5HgiTHLgDD7z0xqjg&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=14&via=1,2&sll=42.950455,-73.193493&sspn=0.030846,0.077162&ie=UTF8&ll=42.833681,-73.471069&spn=0.49447,1.234589&z=10 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=County+Rd+153%2FWolf+Rd&daddr=Phylis+Ln+to:42.949324,-73.188+to:684+Rod+Gun+Club+Rd,+Shaftsbury,+VT+05262&geocode=FX_MiwIdB7-Z-w%3BFXmpjgIdF8yi-w%3B%3BFVmDjwIdL0aj-ymHM-Z8f5HgiTHLgDD7z0xqjg&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=14&via=1,2&sll=42.950455,-73.193493&sspn=0.030846,0.077162&ie=UTF8&ll=42.833681,-73.471069&spn=0.49447,1.234589&z=10)
MJA
From the announcement I've read, the August Bennington Appleseed is a .22 rimfire event only. Even though I have been practicing with my new LTR, 500m is a bit too much for a .22, and from me (at this time). :) I'll work on the longer ranges with my centerfires after August.
Hopefully I will do better this time. At the April Appleseed at SaraSpa, I had a big share of equipment problems, as well as operator problems. The covered firing line will be nice in case of weather or the August Sun. (I was mud up to my knees back in April!)
I've been practicing using downloaded QD-AQT's at about 25m. Unfortunately the range where I shoot does not allow prone or offhand shooting, only from a bench (aka a modified picnic table, which I think is made of petrified wood!). I don't use a benchrest for shooting after having gotten my new LTR sighted in.
Can you suggest a way I can simulate prone, sitting, and offhand while live-fire shooting from the bench?
The training is great and it WAS the primary reason for attending my first Appleseed, knowing nothing about Appleseed at that time. The history lessons of the Revolutionary War at Appleseed are second to none!
The inspiration came when I heard the students being told, whatever your stance is on whatever the topic be, whether it be pro or con, communicate it! To hear that so soon after being told that same thing from a different source just a few weeks earlier, is what got me hooked! The heritage. The commitment. The calling. The teaching. The learning. The leadership. Appleseed!
Quote from: LittleMo on July 08, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
From the announcement I've read, the August Bennington Appleseed is a .22 rimfire event only. Even though I have been practicing with my new LTR, 500m is a bit too much for a .22, and from me (at this time). :) I'll work on the longer ranges with my centerfires after August.
Hopefully I will do better this time. At the April Appleseed at SaraSpa, I had a big share of equipment problems, as well as operator problems. The covered firing line will be nice in case of weather or the August Sun. (I was mud up to my knees back in April!)
I've been practicing using downloaded QD-AQT's at about 25m. Unfortunately the range where I shoot does not allow prone or offhand shooting, only from a bench (aka a modified picnic table, which I think is made of petrified wood!). I don't use a benchrest for shooting after having gotten my new LTR sighted in.
Can anyone suggest a way I can simulate prone, sitting, and offhand while live-fire shooting from the bench?
The training is great and it WAS the primary reason for attending my first Appleseed, knowing nothing about Appleseed at that time. The history lessons of the Revolutionary War at Appleseed are second to none!
The inspiration came when I heard the students being told, whatever your stance is on whatever the topic be, whether it be pro or con, communicate it! To hear that so soon after being told that same thing from a different source just a few weeks earlier, is what got me hooked! The heritage. The commitment. The calling. The teaching. The learning. The leadership. Appleseed!
QuoteFrom the announcement I've read, the August Bennington Appleseed is a .22 rimfire event only. Even though I have been practicing with my new LTR, 500m is a bit too much for a .22, and from me (at this time). I'll work on the longer ranges with my centerfires after August.
Bennington is 25 yards covered, Saraspa in September is now covered also. Sorry bout the mud. But whats the weather got to do with it.
Practice dry firing, NPOA, you on it, you better be...
Quote from: LittleMo on July 08, 2010, 06:45:42 PMFrom the announcement I've read, the August Bennington Appleseed is a .22 rimfire event only. Even though I have been practicing with my new LTR, 500m is a bit too much for a .22, and from me (at this time). :) I'll work on the longer ranges with my centerfires after August.
That is correct, the Appleseed is rimfire only and any KD shooting will be rimfire to 100 or 200(?) yds. However, after the Appleseed is officially over some folks may choose to stick around for a bit and shoot centerfire KD up to 500 m.
QuoteHopefully I will do better this time. At the April Appleseed at SaraSpa, I had a big share of equipment problems, as well as operator problems. The covered firing line will be nice in case of weather or the August Sun. (I was mud up to my knees back in April!)
Equipment 'issues' and weather are two things we cannot control; however, as I have heard many times on the Appleseed line, if this was easy everyone would be a Rifleman. One of the things that sets the true Rifleman apart from 'shooters' is perseverance to overcome these other influences.
QuoteI've been practicing using downloaded QD-AQT's at about 25m. Unfortunately the range where I shoot does not allow prone or offhand shooting, only from a bench (aka a modified picnic table, which I think is made of petrified wood!). I don't use a benchrest for shooting after having gotten my new LTR sighted in.
Can you suggest a way I can simulate prone, sitting, and offhand while live-fire shooting from the bench?
No, that isn't possible. What I would suggest is dry-firing and save your ammo for the Appleseeds. You can practice all of the fundamentals of precision rifle marksmanship by dry firing - the Six Steps to Firing the Shot, NPOA, NPOA shifts, safe transitions, etc. I've attached two targets below that can be used for dry fire practice in almost any living room or basement.
QuoteThe training is great and it WAS the primary reason for attending my first Appleseed, knowing nothing about Appleseed at that time. The history lessons of the Revolutionary War at Appleseed are second to none!
Our goal is to awaken the sleeping American in our citizens by teaching them their heritage, and the sacrifices that were made by our ancestors for our freedoms. It is our responsibility as Americans to become involved in how this country is governed, just as those men and women back in 1775 faced down the largest, most powerful army in the world to retain the right to have a say in how their country was to be governed. The differnece, of course, is that we don't have to commit an act of treason to do so - we have a written Constitution that provides the rules and groundwork for our participation in our government.
QuoteThe inspiration came when I heard the students being told, whatever your stance is on whatever the topic be, whether it be pro or con, communicate it! To hear that so soon after being told that same thing from a different source just a few weeks earlier, is what got me hooked! The heritage. The commitment. The calling. The teaching. The learning. The leadership. Appleseed
Precisely! Let those who have been chosen to represent our interests kinow how they are doing - and if they're not representing The People, fire 'em!
Hope to see you in September at SaraSpa!
MJA
I was supposed to do the New Bremen shoot last month but the gods conspired against me. I am registered for the Burlington Flats Appleseed this weekend. It will be my first Appleseed and I am really looking forward to it. Also looking forward to making new friends there.
Peace, Out \ /
The Postman
Hey folks!
So i just purchased a surplus M1 Garand from the CMP! The gun is absolutely beautiful and in pristine condition so naturally i would like to keep it that way, thus i have a few questions on maintenance that i hoped you all might have some answers for. Mainly i was wondering what is the best cleaning product to use for the gun? Right now i have hoppes but im not sure if that is sufficient. Next i was wondering what would be best to use on the wood? For this i had someone suggest linseed oil, so i would like to know if that is a viable option for the wood? Well i suppose thats it for now... Any answers you folks might have would be greatly appreciated and i hope to make an appearance with my Garand at an Appleseed in the future!
Thanks in advance!
Quote from: The Postman on July 12, 2010, 06:46:53 PM
I was supposed to do the New Bremen shoot last month but the gods conspired against me. I am registered for the Burlington Flats Appleseed this weekend. It will be my first Appleseed and I am really looking forward to it. Also looking forward to making new friends there.
Peace, Out \ /
The Postman
B-Flats will be a great shoot. A large number of the NY Instructor crew will be there along with some from WV and Scout, a Master Instructor, from Texas.
You will make new friends at an Appleseed. It's in the rule book somewhere.
Quote from: Longshot91 on July 13, 2010, 12:51:07 AM
Hey folks!
So i just purchased a surplus M1 Garand from the CMP! The gun is absolutely beautiful and in pristine condition so naturally i would like to keep it that way, thus i have a few questions on maintenance that i hoped you all might have some answers for. Mainly i was wondering what is the best cleaning product to use for the gun? Right now i have hoppes but im not sure if that is sufficient. Next i was wondering what would be best to use on the wood? For this i had someone suggest linseed oil, so i would like to know if that is a viable option for the wood? Well i suppose thats it for now... Any answers you folks might have would be greatly appreciated and i hope to make an appearance with my Garand at an Appleseed in the future!
Thanks in advance!
You have made a wise choice in rifles.
I use Hoppes so I hope it is sufficient. Linseed oil is best for the stock. Be sure it is BOILED linseed oil.
What B9 said is good, there a few very important grease points on the rifle as well,, Rear of Bolts lugs, Receiver bridge, Bolt channel of receiver, Operating Rod Stud guide way on side of receiver, Bottom of barrel where Op- rod slides back and forth, BUT ONLY Light Coating of Gun Grease, White Lithium is Great for this, and is also a great indicator of when to clean these areas as well, for it will become darker as it gets dirty, keeps you on your toes with maintenance..
You have a Great Rifle there Sir, Treasure it, and it will be there for you for many years to come,,,
sgtrock
(M1 affectionado)
http://www.fulton-armory.com/tea/maint.htm,, check out this link and you'll be good, theres alot stuff there for M1's,,, if you need or want more, let me know
Thank you very much B9 and sgtrock! your information is very helpful and will serve me well. If i have any other questions i will be sure to let you know... Thanks again!
Longshot91
..The Postman, Burlington Flats will be a fine shot, I will be there to greet you and introduce you to all our other fine Instructors..
Thanks B9 and Josey Wales . . I have my 10-22 Liberty Trainer rifle dialed in and ready to go. My wife (Mrs Postman) will be attending also but not sure if she will be shooting yet.
I have another 10-22 I am putting Tech Sights on on Friday for her to use.
How much 22LR ammo should I bring??
Peace, Out \ /
The Postman
Quote from: Longshot91 on July 13, 2010, 12:51:07 AM
Hey folks!
So i just purchased a surplus M1 Garand from the CMP! The gun is absolutely beautiful and in pristine condition so naturally i would like to keep it that way, thus i have a few questions on maintenance that i hoped you all might have some answers for. Mainly i was wondering what is the best cleaning product to use for the gun? Right now i have hoppes but im not sure if that is sufficient. Next i was wondering what would be best to use on the wood? For this i had someone suggest linseed oil, so i would like to know if that is a viable option for the wood? Well i suppose thats it for now... Any answers you folks might have would be greatly appreciated and i hope to make an appearance with my Garand at an Appleseed in the future!
Thanks in advance!
Good man!
I used mineral spirits to get the cosmoline off the metal (and wood). Linseed oil is good, tung oil even better, for finish. PM me if you want. Are you going to be at B-flats this weekend? We could get into it further, face-to-face. It's going to be a great shoot.
Postman
..if you are attending both Saturday and Sunday and you want to be on the safe side 1000 rounds per person will be enough. You will probably not use them all but that will leave you some ammo to go home with..
Another D.O.M. & R1sgx2,
Thanks for the advice, and for the dry-fire AQTs.
Unfortunately, I cannot attend the SaraSpa Appleseed in September, which is why I am going to the Bennington Appleseed in August. Yes, the shooting instruction is the best, but its the awakening that has hooked me.
I have been working into discussions about Appleseed. Recently at the range, I overheard another referring to Appleseed so naturally I started talking to him and explaining what Appleseed is about. He had heard of Appleseed but never attended an Appleseed shoot. Without being too pushy, I encouraged him, and the guy he was talking with, to visit the Appleseed web site and to attend the SaraSpa Appleseed.
I have been spreading the word about Appleseed. :)
Quote from: The Postman on July 13, 2010, 07:55:49 PMHow much 22LR ammo should I bring??
Two bricks (1000 rounds total) per shooter should be more than enough. Most instructors carry extra with them in case someone runs short or has ammo-related problems. I'll have several thousand rounds with me - Blazers, Federal, Remington and some Mini-Mags.
The forecast is for partly to mostly sunny with temps in the mid 80s. Bring plenty of water, sunscreen, snacks, and a pop-up canopy if you like.
Oh, and BTW Sgtrock says the folks who usually put on the outstanding lunches for us when we're in Burlington Flats are all either shooting themselves or out of town. Everyone should plan to bring enough food for the weekend to cover all of their meals. There are no fast-food joints nearby...
Quote from: LittleMo on July 13, 2010, 10:56:27 PMI have been spreading the word about Appleseed. :)
Yup - it does that to you!
MJA
I wish to thank the instructor's at the July 17/18 2010 Burlington Flats Shoot. sat. was quiet eye opening with a lot of info. :o on our history and shooting. My wife "Barbara" who had only fired a rifle 1time before had a good time. the instructors took the time to "get down in the dirt" and give hands on instruction, (Thank you Jose wales).
We thought it would be more of a instruction to shooting rather than a insruction in how to shoot competition. And as we were not able to return on sunday (death in family) we will not give up our goal to obtain a rifeman patch
Great to hear from you Kam1969 and I'm glad you and your wife enjoyed the Burlington Flats event! I am, however, very sorry to hear about your family misfortune - please accept the condolences of the Appleseed community.
QuoteWe thought it would be more of a instruction to shooting rather than a insruction in how to shoot competition.
I'm not sure I understand this comment - we try to tell folks that Appleseed is not a competition, and the only one you may be competing with is yourself. Did you get the impression that there was some competition involved? If so, please let us know so that we can discuss this amongst our instructors.
You may wish to view the event After Action Report at http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=15286.0 (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=15286.0) and please feel free to post your own comments.
Thanks once again for your comments and welcome to Appleseed!
MJA
My guess is Kam1969 is referring to the difference between "tactical firearms training" and "marksmanship". There are a number of organizations which offer what might be termed "tactical firearms training". Rarely is the primary emphasis on hitting the target. The well-known operator of one such course describes it as a "self-defense gun class". If your primary goal is self-defense, then while aligning Point-of-Impact with Point-of-Aim could certainly be helpful, it is a very, very long-distance second to not getting hurt.
As described to me, Appleseed is a combination History lesson and Marksmanship program. Again, the real-world "shooter" is probably far less interested in Marksmanship than in achieving the mission objective - whether that objective is defending home and family or putting something in the stew pot. It is really only in sport or competition that the primary emphasis of firearms use is on Marksmanship.
However...the habits of effective Marksmanship CAN be extremely helpful in any situation which requires more "realistic" shooting goals. Several commenters over in the forum section "Guy's Mind" have noted that it is far easier to teach a Marksman how to engage in tactical firearms usage than it is to teach a "fast shooter" how to aim. Good marksmanship - target, or competition shooting - is the foundation on which additional skill with firearms is built.
Just presenting my opinion that a real-world shooter should be interested in markmanship. Whether it be making a clean humane one-shot kill on game for the table or freezer, or to quickly fend off an intruder or home invader, or punching holes precisely on paper targets for fun or competition (or both), or defending your country if the need should ever come. Markmanship is just one part of becoming a Rifleman.
Gary
("You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." Misattributed to Isoroku Yamamoto (1884-1943).)
New guy from NY... my brother got me into Appleseed and I had a heck of a great weekend! The instructors were awesome.... dont miss out on a great learning experience!
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Hey Swamphunter. You did good. You spent couple minutes on the 200 plateau but you dug in and got it. Persistance. Now let's fill the entire club with @&) shooting Appleseed.
Hey all,
been on the forum a while but I seem to have missed this thread. After the June shoot at New Bremen and this last weekend at Massena, I'll be putting on an Orange Hat this coming weekend (back at New Bremen).
Quote from: Rattlehead on August 24, 2010, 11:51:13 PM
Hey all,
been on the forum a while but I seem to have missed this thread. After the June shoot at New Bremen and this last weekend at Massena, I'll be putting on an Orange Hat this coming weekend (back at New Bremen).
Welcome aboard Rattlehead - thanks for stepping up!
MJA
Hi,
I attended my first Appleseed in New Bremen this past weekend and had a great time, thanks to all the instructors, rattlehead (i think) for his patience and encouragement with myself & nephew and to boltgun for the opportunity to transfer what I learned to 400yrds, only bummer was my M1 falling apart but I'll get it into shape.
Thanks for coming up. hope to see you next year
Welcome aboard blasko! It's good to see you on the NY board, and I'm glad to hear you had a great time at the shoot. Those instructors at New Bremen really know how to run a fantastic event!
See you on the trail!
MJA
Attended my first Appleseed in New Bremen. Took the wife and my 2 boys. We had a great time and met some great people. Hope to attend another one soon.
Hello OlSarge. Good to have you on board. Glad the Boys had a good time
Curious, has anyone explored the free event postings pages on some local television stations' web sites? An Appleseed event, that is in the area of a given tv station, could be announced using this medium and it appears to be free to list. Locally, WRGB-TV and WXXA-TV both allow users to post announcements for their events. Other tv stations throughout the country may also offer this service. (http://events.cbs6albany.com/listings and http://www.fox23news.com/ugc/cat/communitycalendar/default.aspx)
My fiancée, Sue (who is new to the forum using the nick "The Mrs." that she was jokingly dubbed at her first Appleseed by nyrasgt), pointed out that Yahoo also allows users to post events. (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/) Has this been explored for announcing Appleseed events?
How many people read these event postings, I don't know. It sure is different than the usual places such as gun stores, sporting goods departments at chain department stores, and cork board thumb tack postings. With the Appleseed 300 coming up next weekend and several shoots the following weekend, this might help to fill those lines!
Then a question popped up in my head... Would I be able to post something for Appleseed as a representative of Appleseed, or would it better to let someone higher up the chain do the PR using that medium? If I were to do it, I probably would copy and paste some of the info from the Appleseed main web page into a paragraph or two. I am not an advertising exec; I'm just good at talking to promote Appleseed. :)
Just a few things that popped into my head while checking local news online...
Gary
Reply moved to After Action Reports>Saratoga Springs NY Sept.18 & 19, 2010 (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=16933.msg138440#msg138440)
QuoteBye the way, I shot a Colt LE6920 in 5.56 with irons. Thats just a loud .22 right?
Greg, Go big or go home....
Glad you came to the shoot, not many know you decided to come Friday night. AND good job, see ya at the range,
ALSO check on the AAR for Saratoga for comments and pictures.
Hello everybody,
I just registered on the site after finding out about the Appleseed Project lately. I'm not 100% certain that it is what I'm looking for, but I'm hopeful.
I've recently (finally) indulged my desire to get into the shooting sports. A coworker, myself, and our spouses took the first two handgun First Shots classes offered in Springfield, MA through the NSSF. The four of us loved it and are excited to continue to practice and learn more.
One thing that we'd really like to do is to be able to take an introductory class, similar to First Shots, geared towards the proper usage of rifles, ideally renting the firearms for the course. Being that NY's laws are less ridiculous with rifles than handguns, I was hopeful I could find something like this online, but I've been unable to.
Appleseed sounds promising and close to what we're looking for, except for the part about not yet owning guns. Am I incorrect about what Appleseed is really all about? Should I contact the organizer of the specific event to see if rifle borrowing/renting is an option? (Specifically, I'm looking at the event on Nov 20-21 in Lake George).
Thanks for any info and guidance anybody can offer. I'm hoping Appleseed can be our first step towards rifle marksmanship!
Welcome tecknicaltom.
Is Appleseed what you are looking for?
If you want to learn to handle a rifle safely and effectively, then yes. If that is all you desire, Appleseed can help.
I may be at the Lake George shoot and do have a 10/22 Ruger you could borrow and I know most of the other NY Instructors would also.
If that's all you want.
But I am sure you have seen/read a little bit about Project Appleseeds primary goal of History and Heritage, right?
Go to the Lake George shoot and bring the coworker and the spouses. Preregister on the EventBright site so we can plan supplies. Post back here with how many in your party and we will arrange some loaner rifles.
..Tecknicaltom.,
..Lake George will be a great event to attend. There will be excellent Instructors there to assist, also the Instructor to student ratio will be like 1 to 4.. The experience I promise will be rewarding. If you follow what B9 suggested we will be able to get all 4 of you set up with rifles & gear. You would pick up the 22 LR ammo ( a brick of 500 for each shooter minimum), eye & ear protection too.. PM any of us with any questions or concerns..
B9 and Josey Wales,
We will unfortunately not be able to make the event on the 20th and 21st. I was really looking forward to it, but that weekend is no good for us. Thank you for your help and your offers to help find loaners. I will definitely be trying to make it to one of the future Appleseed events, and who knows, maybe by then I'll need one less loaner... Thanks again for your help.
Hi ALL
New here, just registered. Im looking to see if I can get my range to host a shoot. Need advice on that.
Hey there nyhunter - welcome to Appleseed, and welcome to the NY board!
There are several folks in the NY Appleseed community who can help you out with this. LittleMo and The Mrs. have presented Appleseed to the Board of Directors at their home range; and several of us have done likewise at ranges throughout the state.
Send me a PM with your contact info, what area of NY you live in, and the range you're interested in getting an Appleseed event scheduled at. I'll be happy to provide information and guidance.
Thanks for your post - and thanks for helping to save our nation!
MJA
Bump.
Hi, All.
Checking in as directed.
Done 2 Appleseeds, shot a 230 at the second in Myakka, FL last month. Contemplating Calverton this month so I can keep ratcheting up the challenge a bit each time.
Looking to get more involved locally.
Jim
Quote from: j1mmyd on January 05, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
Done 2 Appleseeds, shot a 230 at the second in Myakka, FL last month.
Looking to get more involved locally.
Two Appleseeds, a 230, Instruction from some of the best (FL crew), wants to help out...... Welcome.
Could not get much better than that. Go to Calverton and accept an Orange Hat while your there.
Even better also go the the B-Flats IBC.
Your silence in this matter is not acceptable.
Shot first and second Appleseeds in Oct and Dec respectively @ Calverton... Shot a 223 and 232 at 2nd and took an orange Hat... But you already know that B9. Going to Burlington IBC, still looking for other iit's who might need a ride. Got room for 2 or 3 more. PM me if interested.
Peace