Quote from: RifleWoman on February 02, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
The goal for each April 19th event is to make it the biggest and best event of the year. April 19th 1775 was the first day of the American Revolution. We want to celebrate this day in a way that all those attending will remember.
April 17-18th, 2010 is the dates we'll be holding this year's April 19th Celebration. Currently we have 91 events set up all over the nation, with a goal of 200. There should definitely be one near you.
Currently we are planning to have drawings for door prizes, and other festivities. This is the not to miss event of the YEAR!!!
For those of you who will be shoot boss of one of these events, it will be up to you, the State Coordinator and the local boots on the ground to make your event special. National Appleseed can do very little on the local level to make your event spectacular. We suggest that you get some kind of demonstration or re-enactors or something special (there are many options here) to commemorate this important occasion. Start working on this now so it will be ready. This should last between 30 minutes to an hour so that it doesn't take too much of your instruction time.
Let's start planning on how to staff these events:
April 17-18 Allemans, PA
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11448.0
April 17-18 Chambersburg, PA
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11447.0
April 17-18 Manheim, PA DAR
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11142.0
Who can Shoot Boss? Who can instruct? Who can IIT? Who can help promote and fill the lines? Who knows re-enactors or other special guests? Can we do this ourselves, :) or will we need to ask neighboring states to help? :sos:
I will wear an Orange or Red Hat at Manheim or Chambersburg.
I'll wear orange or red to Manheim or Allemans or Chambersburg, wherever the need is greatest.
My intent is to be working the Vienna, Ohio shoot on April 17/18. However, in an emergency I might be able to cover either Chambersburg or Allemans.
No colored hats for me yet, so I'll do what I can for promotions as usual. I'll be attending one of them, probably Manheim.
Mooney
:-[
I'm an IIT from Georgia, and I'm planning to be in Manheim. Haven't gotten confirmation on that yet, but I assume it will work out.
I just signed up for the Allemans Appleseed! I attended this one last year and loved it - it is one of the nicest ranges in one of the prettiest parts of PA (on top of the Allegheny mountains). Great camping area with a nice, big campfire pit too!
Looking forward to this again - hopefully many of the wonderful people that attended last year can come back again, as well as some new ones!
Cheers
Quote from: franklinfarmer on February 10, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
I'm an IIT from Georgia, and I'm planning to be in Manheim. Haven't gotten confirmation on that yet, but I assume it will work out.
Your help will be appreciated, Manheim is sold out!
Extra shooters will have to go to Allemans or Chambersburg- plenty of room on those beautiful ranges.
Excellent. I'm an IIT3 and trying to advance, so it would be a shame to be wandering through a forest of red hats with nothing to do.
John, Just a warning in case you haven't checked a map...
The great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is North of the Sweet Tea Line.
Glad to have you
Quote from: Chainsaw on March 22, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
The great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is North of the Sweet Tea Line.
I know that is a crack at me. Thought I wouldn't catch it, eh? Spanner is everywhere.
franklinfarmer, you'll have a great time working with the PA guys. O0
Quote from: Chainsaw on March 22, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
John, Just a warning in case you haven't checked a map...
The great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is North of the Sweet Tea Line.
Glad to have you
PA is a harsh mistress, eh? That sounds like it could be up my alley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress
Hey all, I was checking the pre-regs today and PA is really low. Let's see what can be done to boost numbers before Fred catches wind of this and makes PA the new whipping child like TX ~~:) ;)
Just a friendly warning ;D
3 weeks to go:
Allemans Shoot Boss to be arranged.
I will Shoot Boss Chambersburg.
Chainsaw will Shoot Boss Manheim, which is sold out. All PA IITs who can, please sign up with Instructor Scheduling for Manheim! 30 shooters on the line :---
Quote from: Big H on March 28, 2010, 02:23:14 AM
All PA IITs who can, please sign up with Instructor Scheduling for Manheim! 30 shooters on the line :---
Last year, Allemans had 68 shooters. Dunno why, or what to expect this year.
I was at Allemans last year. There were people from NJ, NY I think, and all over PA. It was the only shoot anywhere nearby for many Pennsylvanians. I think that's why there were around 70 shooters there. I have been hanging fire, waiting to see where I'm needed most this April. I had intended to go to Manheim as an IIT 2 and do another PC if time allows, but unless other folks are doing the same as me, we're going to have trouble staffing all these events. I'm happy to go to any of the events in the state.
Frontsight
Quote from: Spanner on March 28, 2010, 08:13:14 AM
Last year, Allemans had 68 shooters. Dunno why, or what to expect this year.
Current pre-registrations as of 3/26:
Allemans 7 (out of 71 slots) /SB to be arranged
Chambersburg 7 (out of 45 slots) Big H/SB, Tatical308 (IIT, LBOTG)
Manheim 30- sold out! Chainsaw/SB, franklinfarmer (IIT2)
To all patriots, please continue to promote Allemans and Chambersburg to help fill these lines.
To all PA IITs, please sign up with Instructor Scheduling for Manheim, which needs the most help right now. Chainsaw will handle IIT PCs for all who need it. As the other lines fill up, relocation may be necessary, but please commit now to Manheim so we can see who can muster up. A Rifleman adapts, improvises, overcomes. :o
With no SB for Allemans, Is someone the BOTG for this shoot? Where is the shoot box going to be sent? Has it been ordered?
Quote from: Frontsight on March 28, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
I have been hanging fire, waiting to see where I'm needed most this April. I had intended to go to Manheim as an IIT 2 and do another PC if time allows, but unless other folks are doing the same as me, we're going to have trouble staffing all these events. I'm happy to go to any of the events in the state.
I'm with you. WV is going to have to import one RH to cover one of our shoots. I'm working (shhh... don't tell my SC) on exporting some WV IIT talent to PA. I've got one on standby, and trying for more.
Alright - I'm signed up for Manheim, but will go where needed.
Frontsight
This was not retoricle!
Someone is going to have to travel to SB this shoot, it might be me. So the questions are not from some busy body with no business asking. Btw, will there be a target line set up?
Quote from: colycat on March 28, 2010, 09:59:05 AM
With no SB for Allemans, Is someone the BOTG for this shoot? Where is the shoot box going to be sent? Has it been ordered?
No supplies, no botg.
I've been there before. Do call with all your questions.
Tom 570-335-3172
Colycat - the Allemans shoot is at the Reade Range. Its the home range of a long range shooting club. They have military style butts there. The various targets are posted on the backers which move up and down on counterweighted pulleys. I'm not sure who needs to be contacted about getting the target backers out of the range clubhouse as I was only a participant last year, not an IIT. The range is set up for 1000 yard shooting. Its a pretty impressive place. For Appleseed purposes last year we simply set up 25 meters from the targets. I imagine if the group is manageable you can back them up to longer distances if you like, but there wouldn't be room for people to shoot at varying ranges at the same time. We had 70 shooters last year which was pretty close to being too many I would say. Truculent Turtle was the shoot boss last year. He came up from VA with 3 IITs. I think Chainsaw was there from PA as well as another IIT whose name I don't recall. There is plenty of primitive camping on sight, but no town nearby. Altoona is the nearest big town and Tyrone is around 12 miles away from the range, but I don't know if they have much besides a convenience store there. Anything else I can help you with just post or PM me.
Frontsight
Who exactly is the RWVA BOTG for this range?
In light of the fact that Colycat is contemplating getting on a plane, and Fred is contemplating paying for it, it would be great if there were at least one dedicated pair of BOTG --- someone clearly identified as The Person You Go To Regarding Allemans.
Quote from: Instructor Scheduling on March 29, 2010, 09:05:21 PM
it would be great if there were at least one dedicated pair of BOTG
Yep, sure would be nice. Fact is there is not at this time.
I set up the first shoot here and attended said shoot on a lead provided by Fulfaler back in 08. The EIP is accurate and fairly complete. http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=11448.0
Any prospective SB would just need to call the range President for gate access code and target frame shed code.
Quote from: colycat on March 29, 2010, 07:26:47 PM
This was not retoricle!
Someone is going to have to travel to SB this shoot, it might be me. So the questions are not from some busy body with no business asking. Btw, will there be a target line set up?
Quote from: colycat on March 28, 2010, 09:59:05 AM
With no SB for Allemans, Is someone the BOTG for this shoot? Where is the shoot box going to be sent? Has it been ordered?
The shoot box has not been ordered. There is no BOTG to send it to currently.
Cowdog (IIT) is scheduled for Vienna OH but in an emergency can come to Allemans.
If the SB will fly in, let's figure that out ASAP so Cowdog can be asked to receive the shoot box (after the SB orders the shoot box with Cowdog's address) and drive it to Allemans to IIT there instead of Vienna OH.
If Spanner will be SB, he will drive so he could order and receive the shoot box himself. This all depends on how WV and Allemans will be covered.
Quote from: Frontsight on March 29, 2010, 07:49:41 PM
Colycat - the Allemans shoot is at the Reade Range. Its the home range of a long range shooting club. They have military style butts there. The various targets are posted on the backers which move up and down on counterweighted pulleys. I'm not sure who needs to be contacted about getting the target backers out of the range clubhouse as I was only a participant last year, not an IIT. The range is set up for 1000 yard shooting. Its a pretty impressive place. For Appleseed purposes last year we simply set up 25 meters from the targets. Anything else I can help you with just post or PM me.
Frontsight
Quote from: B9 on March 29, 2010, 09:55:02 PM
Any prospective SB would just need to call the range President for gate access code and target frame shed code.
With no LBOTG, the SB will need to contact the Range President directly to confirm the target line and any equipment and supplies needed. Contact info is on the EIP and here:
http://www.readerange.org/contact.html
Quote from: Big H on March 30, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
The shoot box has not been ordered. There is no BOTG to send it to currently.
Cowdog (IIT) is scheduled for Vienna OH but in an emergency can come to Allemans.
If the SB will fly in, let's figure that out ASAP so Cowdog can be asked to receive the shoot box (after the SB orders the shoot box with Cowdog's address) and drive it to Allemans to IIT there instead of Vienna OH.
If Spanner will be SB, he will drive so he could order and receive the shoot box himself. This all depends on how WV and Allemans will be covered.
With no LBOTG, the SB will need to contact the Range President directly to confirm the target line and any equipment and supplies needed. Contact info is on the EIP and here:
http://www.readerange.org/contact.html
Here is a partial solution of sorts:
brickhouse (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=4491) is going to work Allemans, PA. That's already a done deal. IS should hear of it soon.
I can send SB stuff with her. I don't know how early in advance she can arrive. But the bulky stuff can be there hours before the shoot. It might be a busy morning, but, hey, we are RWVA.
QuoteI can send SB stuff with her. I don't know how early in advance she can arrive. But the bulky stuff can be there hours before the shoot. It might be a busy morning, but, hey, we are RWVA.
yup. What he said.
I'm not sure if I can come up Friday or not (babysitter issues). But I can certainly be there in time for the dawn muster. If that timing is not likely to work, let me know now and I'll start brainstorming means to sufficiently bribe the sitter.
Quote from: Spanner on March 30, 2010, 11:58:46 AM
brickhouse (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=4491) is going to work Allemans, PA. That's already a done deal. IS should hear of it soon.
I can send SB stuff with her. ...
Good! Well, from I.S.'s point of view, good and bad. That leaves Stinson with just The Machine and whatever (as-yet unidentified Shoot Boss) for Stinson. But Frank and the un-named one can probably handle that. Spanner, FYI: I've floated some inquiries to people south and east of you, to see if there's some Red Hat willing to drive 5-6 hours each way and cover one of the WV events. If someone came from the south, Beckley might be closer for that person, in which case maybe you could swap and do Stinson. Stinson's closer to you anyhow, right?
Anyhow, I'm glad to hear Brickhouse is heading to Allemans.
Quote from: FuzzyMath on March 30, 2010, 02:46:59 PM
I've floated some inquiries to people south and east of you, to see if there's some Red Hat willing to drive 5-6 hours each way and cover one of the WV events. If someone came from the south, Beckley might be closer for that person, in which case maybe you could swap and do Stinson.
Stinson WV is established, and turn-key (almost SB walk-on ready). Beckly WV is a new location, but will have good IIT help. Stinson is about 1.5 hours north of Beckly. I'll take whatever is left, and I don't need to know right away. And this is the PA board I've been cluttering up. Sorry all!
Allemans 4/17-18
You guys have to get this thing together somehow, or else cancel it (?)
OK there is no local BOTG. And almost everyone is otherwise busy for 4/17-18 (but wasn't there a fellow named Layke (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=4318)?)
Colycat may or may not agree to fly in & do this shoot but if he does, can he expect any help at all?
Quote from: FuzzyMath on March 31, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Allemans 4/17-18
You guys have to get this thing together somehow, or else cancel it (?)
Whoa. Let me ask a question or two.
Are we likely to be able to get other dates this year at this location? I heard it is a nice place.
Look at where it is on the map. Sure, it isn't terribly close to a major population center, but it does connect Pittsburgh to Chambersburg and Manheim. B9 said something, somewhere, about avoiding cancellations at clubs and commercial ranges, which struck me as being wise.
Also, I've been on the receiving end of cancellations (more than one) in my pre-instructing days. Quite honestly, I still haven't entirely shaken off opinions that I formed back then.
Spanner, if you're saying that canceling an event is big, bad deal, then I agree!
So who's gonna help Colycat, if he agrees to come out?
Quote from: FuzzyMath on March 31, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
So who's gonna help Colycat, if he agrees to come out?
If an SB were to fly in, I can send all materials (cardboard, target & firing line construction items, targets, shirts, etc etc) with brickhouse. That would be one RH and one IIT3 to start. That's better than some locations (so far) as far as staffing goes.
Ditto for an SB that drives in.
I thought Brickhouse was going to help out at this and bring a shoot box? So there is one IIT and targets.
This may be our only shoot possible this year at this location. Surely if we cancel they would not be so quick to give us another date. How many other 1000 yard ranges with a target pit, smooth and marked 100 yard firing lines do we have in PA or the NE as a whole?
In my experience this range needs little as far as SB work other than show up, call the range contact for gate code and mark out 25 meters. Porta-johns are on site, target backers are in the shed, target frames in place.
There is also RH Northbridgewater in OH (former NYer) that I do not believe is signed up anywhere. He comes with his own IIT family of 2. Hard to get a hold of but there is another option.
We don't cancel shoots. Especially at 1000 yard ranges.
Any Red Hat should be able to get dumped on any empty range with nothing but his hat and run a safe Appleseed for any number of students.
Any more help than that is just gravy.
I know for a fact colycat is just such a Red Hat. O0
I can possibly contact Northbridgewater. Kathy is one of my Facebook friends. Not sure how often she is on.
Northbridgewater is another such Red Hat. O0
Wow, everyone is talking and working out the solutions. This is real progress. Crak, thanks for the vote of confidence, although shoot boxes in addition to my sharpie would be nice. It would be best for the program if a local SB can be found. That said, I will do what national needs. But,There is a shoot that could really use me closer to home.
Northbridgewater is a great lead to do it instead if you can contact him, coly.
Otherwise if you're not sure anyone local can take a shoot box, just order one yourself (it's getting late) and bring the essentials (it's not looking like a huge shoot) in a suitcase. I'd order the box first and ask questions later... they'll get used at some future appleseed anyway.
On
the matter of the shoot box, recall the following from earlier in this thread --- in case it helps you can probably send the box to Spanner/Brickhouse:
Quote from: Spanner on March 30, 2010, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Big H on March 30, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
The shoot box has not been ordered. There is no BOTG to send it to currently.
...
Here is a partial solution of sorts:
brickhouse (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=4491) is going to work Allemans, PA. That's already a done deal. ...
I can send SB stuff with her. I don't know how early in advance she can arrive. But the bulky stuff can be there hours before the shoot. It might be a busy morning, but, hey, we are RWVA.
Quote from: brickhouse on March 30, 2010, 12:22:30 PM
yup. What he said.
I'm not sure if I can come up Friday or not (babysitter issues). But I can certainly be there in time for the dawn muster. If that timing is not likely to work, let me know now and I'll start brainstorming means to sufficiently bribe the sitter.
Just to let everyone know, some options are now off the table. I have asked IS to move me to Stinson. brickhouse is still going to Allemans, so no change in that situation.
Northbridgewater is now the Shoot Boss for Allemans.
Who is handling PR on Allemans? I see 7 preregs as of Monday pm. Any chance of getting, say, thirty or forty more? @)
It is amazing to me that there is this much difficulty getting people signed up for Allemans! I was there last year, and the range is probably the nicest I've ever seen. Wonderful camping area too, with a nice, big firepit.
Northbridgewater, I have tried to get friends & relatives to sign up for this one. Unfortunately, although they express interest, they all have something else -- the PA trout opener, a deer management class in NJ, another with a farm that he just can't get away from for 2 days. Yes, I know it sucks.... and how do you sell people who shoot all the time on their farm on the importance of attending an Appleseed? It is not just the shooting, but the history and comraderie too... how can I get that point across?
Anyway, see you guys there, rain or shine. I hope I can earn my rifleman patch this time!
P.S. For a mass marketing thing, maybe someone can get Front Sight to pick it up... they certainly have no problem swamping people's inboxes with spam! ;)