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Your Appleseed State Board => Pennsylvania => Topic started by: GEmanuel on September 21, 2012, 11:47:53 AM

Title: UN Closer to Arms Control Treaty
Post by: GEmanuel on September 21, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
The UN appears to be pressing the Arms Control Treaty toward passage.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/un-small-arms-treaty-passes-while-media-sleeps/

Hopefully this satisfies everyone. The simple point is we had better stay awake and prepared to fight this thing or what were are about could become moot.

Traditionally any Treaty has to be ratified by the US Senate, but given this administrations proclivity to ignore the Constitution and issue 'Executive Orders' we really do need to keep an eye on this potential infringement
Title: Re: UN Passes Arms Control Treaty
Post by: fepowered on September 21, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
No it did not...
Please change your post title. No arms treaty was passed.....
If you read the text which you linked to, you will find that they
Quoteadopted a consensus outcome document
Title: Re: UN Passes Arms Control Treaty
Post by: jmdavis on September 21, 2012, 01:40:14 PM
"United Nations flag SC UN Small Arms Treaty Passes While Media Sleeps

The United Nations Small Arms Treaty passed in its second session. The Media was silent over its passage.

According to the UN's press release,

Concluding its two-week session today, the second United Nations conference to review the 2001 Programme of Action on trafficking in small arms and light weapons adopted a consensus outcome document that highlighted the international community's renewed commitment to preventing, combating and eradicating the illicit trade."


Sure looks like passage to me.
Title: Re: UN Passes Arms Control Treaty
Post by: fepowered on September 21, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: jmdavis on September 21, 2012, 01:40:14 PM

Sure looks like passage to me.
Look harder.....  Actually read past the title.   Seriously guys... :wb:
Title: Re: UN Passes Arms Control Treaty
Post by: hinermad on September 21, 2012, 02:03:32 PM
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Concluding its two-week session today, the second United Nations conference to review the 2001 Programme of Action on trafficking in small arms and light weapons adopted a consensus outcome document that highlighted the international community's renewed commitment to preventing, combating and eradicating the illicit trade.

That is not a treaty. A treaty specifies obligations for every signatory member and the penalties for not fulfilling those obligations, like a contract. Before the United States can be bound by a treaty it has to sign it, then it has to be ratified by the Senate.

This consensus document is just a list of goals that the signatories agree to work toward. It's more like a party platform in an election. It's not binding, it's just a statement of what they think is important and what they should do about it.

Dave
Title: Re: UN Passes Arms Control Treaty
Post by: oladcock on September 21, 2012, 02:17:13 PM
Yep, we need to focus on the REAL threats. This UN stuff is hyped up by certain organizations to increase donations. Not that we should pay attention, just don't get wrapped around the axle and miss more pressing issues.....O.L.