Ottawa Oct. 24-25

[Rainman]

Thanks Garand69 for your reply concerning my questions about the ban on photos. Thanks for your efforts to have the ban lifted,I'm sure you did what you could. I will keep an eye out for events in my area at other locations.

[Rainman]

I was just looking at the 2010 schedule, it does not look like there are many events scheduled in my area (Illinois) , I would be willing to travel but it does not look like many are sheduled nearby, I:E WI or IN. How likley is it that more will be added?

[EEL]

Rainman,
Don't know your approx location but, We do shoots in Bristol, Racine, Waterman (west near Dekalb) Duran, (west near Rockford), and Ottawa.  IN. has shoots in Riley, Wabash, Evansville, Cloverdale, and Lafeyette.

If you need more info, PM me.

Glad you had a good shoot at Ottawa.  I'll be there next wkend, Nov 7-8

EEL

[Shooterer]

Does anyone know if this thread is the longest AAR to date?

[Rainman]

Rainman,
Don't know your approx location but, We do shoots in Bristol, Racine, Waterman (west near Dekalb) Duran, (west near Rockford), and Ottawa.  IN. has shoots in Riley, Wabash, Evansville, Cloverdale, and Lafeyette.

If you need more info, PM me.

Glad you had a good shoot at Ottawa.  I'll be there next wkend, Nov 7-8

EEL

EEL:

Thanks, I did not see some of these locations on the 2010 schedule, I will take a closer look. We are located near Joliet Il. I don't mind driving, my son had such a great time and was so excited it would be well worth the trip. I'm not sure what PM means, could you explain?
Thanks again.
Rainman

[Trisha]

Rainman, you may not see those events on the list yet for 2010 because they are still getting worked out, but they will be up soon.

Also a PM is a Personal Message. If you look under your picture you will see a tab bar, and one of those says MY Messages, click on that and then on New Message and write to who you want to write to and then send them a message, just like you would with an email. I hope that helps!

Trisha

[Trisha]

Does anyone know if this thread is the longest AAR to date?

Maybe the longest AAR without any pictures of the event...

[Garand69]

I was just looking at the 2010 schedule, it does not look like there are many events scheduled in my area (Illinois) , I would be willing to travel but it does not look like many are sheduled nearby, I:E WI or IN. How likley is it that more will be added?

Actually we have plenty of shoots in IL for 2010, they are not on the National schedule for a reason but you can find them here... http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=7534.0

And of course you can check out the Illinois Appleseed Trail map on Google here...

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=100033431375128470709.00045e65dffbbc3e71f90&ll=42.342305,-88.615723&spn=6.658061,14.0625&z=6

Shooterer said;

Does anyone know if this thread is the longest AAR to date?

While I doubt this is a record AAR, I would not doubt an IL/WI AAR has the record For some reason, our shoots have a tendancy to get folks excited about talking the shoot up. Whether it is Instructor to Instructor or Attendee to Attendee. Just going down the long list of AAR's you can see the qty of replies and views are always high compared to other shoots. I certainly hope we can maintain that level of excitement for years and years to come

Edited to add; Trisha may be right about the no pic record

[Gopher Boy]

I'm on to the Wisconsin tricks.  It's all about distraction...

They know that people from Illinois(ucks) are attracted to shiny things.  So they just keep on pointing them out.  "See look over there...  RBC.  You should go."  "Wow, you have the longest AAR post ever...  Set the record."  Then  WHHHAAAMMMM, Border Raid.  It's all part of the plan to convert our Red Hats to Cheese Heads.    We're on to you.
Oh, look something Shiny...  Oh, what was I saying, darn I think they did it again.  

[Rainman]

Thanks Trsih and Garand69 for your help finding events.

[colycat]

The reason for this extended AAR is all about the weekend.  When all the instructors really gel, the shooters get it.  We had time to do some really good things at this shoot.  Only 15 people and almost as many instructors.  Not saying this should continue, as it should not.  Full lines are what I am after.  Could have done this shoot with 3, maybe two instructors.  What the shooters did witness however was camaraderie of the first order.  A really good thing. Who would not want to be part of this?

Coly

As a PS, Someone from AS once wrote, and I won't quote it because I will butcher it. 

I spent my whole life developing friends, and after one Appleseed, I see what they are really worth.  Not much.  Sunshine friends, summer neighbors.  The people I meet a Appleseed, are true friends, ones who will be there when the chips are down.  Thank your Appleseed!!!!!

[Gopher Boy]

Amen!  Copycat

[Trisha]

Amen!  Copycat

Copycat huh? Is that your new name Colycat? 

[dragonfly]

colycat; copycat
Trisha; Tricia
dragonfly; D-fly
ahhshoot; aaaashoot
Deacon; Decon
Gumballhead; Gumby; Gumbullhead
Gopher Boy; Gopher Guts
Garand69; Durand69
Karl; Carl
Patriot gal; Patriot girl
Castle mountain; Patriot guy
JoeZ; UN

It's all good
get back to work

D-fly

[Gopher Boy]

Oops.  See what happens when you try to post from a PDA.

My apologize Colycat.

[LayloPro]

 

Sometimes even spell check isn't much of a crutch........

But it is pretty funny, right there...... <

LLP

[Gumballhead]

colycat; copycat
Trisha; Tricia
dragonfly; D-fly
ahhshoot; aaaashoot
Deacon; Decon
Gumballhead; Gumby; Gumbullhead
Gopher Boy; Gopher Guts
Garand69; Durand69
Karl; Carl
Patriot gal; Patriot girl
Castle mountain; Patriot guy
JoeZ; UN

It's all good
get back to work

D-fly

The names were changed to protect the innocent! 

[Patriot Gal]

lol  Boy! One thing I've noticed about this group is that, based on the posting times which I think are in eastern time, many of us don't work regular hours or SLEEP regular hours!!!

Patriot Gal
Keeper of Patriot Cats

[Karl]

Being that my brain is the size of a pea; I would butcher everyones names into two syllables.

Examples:

Colycat = C-cat
Trisha = (Would stay the same..Lucky)
Dragonfly = D-fly (That's just cool)
Deacon = D-Con (Another cool one)
Gumballhead = G-Head
Gopher Boy = G- Boy
Garand69 = G69 (Already used quite often... I got nothin)
Karl = (Nuff said)
Patriot Gal = THE Gal (I bet you thought I ws going in a different direction)
Castle Mountain = (I got nothing for this one)
JoeZ = JZ

Ok I'm going back to work.

Karl

[Viper]

Hi everyone,
I finally got set up with a name, Viper. Informally, you know me as Karl's wife, Cherie, so now you can send me messages, too.

I had an awesome time at the Ottawa AS, obviously because I made Rifleman status! (I don't use the whole gender specific in the name thing; rifleman/riflewoman doesn't change the way I shoot, so's it just Rifleman.) My first qualifing AQT was 210, and YES, water was dumped on me. For some reason, no one would accept that the rain got me wet! What a tough crowd! My best AQT was the last of the day, 223, just 1 point shy of matching Karl's top score!
EEL & Robvious, sorry you weren't there to see it, but I'll see you at the Nov 7-8 AS. I plan to shoot (I still want to beat Karl's score, ya know).

I had a blast & plan to spread the word!

Garand: You're right. You cannot aquire NPOA when you are laughing!!!!!    Did you find the Hostess Zinger snack cake I tossed into your truck??  If not, you may want to look for it, although those Twinkie-like products can last for a long time.

See you all at the next Ottawa AS!

[Garand69]

Garand: You're right. You cannot aquire NPOA when you are laughing!!!!!    Did you find the Hostess Zinger snack cake I tossed into your truck??  If not, you may want to look for it, although those Twinkie-like products can last for a long time.

See you all at the next Ottawa AS!

As I was eating said Zinger (strawberry for those wondering), several things were going through my head.... How long has this been floating around the cab? What if those cheeseheads slipped some sort of tracking device in it and then tossed it in my truck??? What if that troublemaker from Cali stashed it in my truck, and are strawberry Zingers the secret to happy cows in Cali?

Thanks for clearing that up ! and welcome aboard Viper, see you in Nov !!

[Gumballhead]

...My first qualifing AQT was 210, and YES, water was dumped on me. For some reason, no one would accept that the rain got me wet! What a tough crowd!...

I tired to keep you dry...

[dragonfly]

Dry at Ottawa.

210 gets a dunking in the nearest pond or stream , But..........it's all good.

Welcome to the forum Viper.

See you on the trail,

D-fly

[Old Glory!]

Viper!  Welcome to Appleseed and the forum.  What a GREAT forum name!  

I think you are going to fit right in with the rest of the IL Zingersinstructors.   Next thing you know, you'll be harangued into a border raid.  

I appreciate your use of the term Rifleman.  It already IS gender neutral......RifleMAN....as in MANkind or the HuMAN race.  

Hope to see you on the trail, or sooner.  BTW, IBC Pappy's place in December January - be there!

Your neighbor to the nort,
OG

[Pappy]

  

Hope to see you on the trail, or sooner.  BTW, IBC Pappy's place in January - be there!

Your neighbor to the nort,
OG


[/quote]

The Instructors Boot Camp weekend has been moved to 16-17-18 January!!!!  Please adjust your boarder raiding efforts to show all changes.
This will be a long weekend for many of us so PLEASE, send a PM if you plan on attending, Also this is a POT LUCK sort of arrangement. SO think about what you like to eat and let us know so you and yours will be added to the growing list. I hope that we have as many as last year. Pappy
 

[Castle Mountain]

Concerning the historical presentation made during this past shoot in Ottawa,  a concern rested in my mind regarding some out of state negative
comments concerning the men who were killed at Watson's corner, namely Jabez Wyman and Jason Winship.  Having looked into the matter myself
I discover further negative comments that are to be found here:  http://vastpublicindifference.blogspot.com/2009/09/watsons-corner-casualties.html[/b]]http://vastpublicindifference.blogspot.com/2009/09/watsons-corner-casualties.html

"Yes, that's the one I remember. Jabez Wyman and Jason Winship appear several times in Fischer's "Paul Revere's Ride." It seems they fell in defence of their mugs of beer in the Menotomy tavern, rather than the liberty of the people (but perhaps that was simply their conception of liberty)."

I take exception to such remarks and accordingly this is what I have to say about that:

No one ahead of the regular's retreat suspected that the British would first shoot over 100 rounds into the tavern building
before entering and slaying whomever they found. Certainly those in the tavern did not. Menotomy became a shooting gallery soon afterward.
Following their search ,having killed the two men,  they found others hiding in the cellar below and spared them.
Homes all along the British retreat road were consistently occupied by Militia men snipers who wrecked havoc upon the British regulars,
so much so that their hatred of the people became so great  that the regulars stormed each house regardless, burning them to the ground
and killing whomever was present. Bloody house to house combat ensued along the way.

The two tavern occupants were but victims, shot up and found bayoneted ,  killed for
not having expected the regulars so soon.

Tis but a cynical comment that exists in the small prejudicial minds of those who unfairly excoriate these two innocent men
with such a charge as having a false sense of liberty but to  a mug of flip.
The people who erected the monument have a better idea of who these men were.
They of all were not ashamed to count Jabez Wyman and Jason Winship as their country men.
Shame on anyone for thinking and saying otherwise.

[/color]

Fer those that remain of the same negative opinion there is an old Scottish saying that has been passed down in my family......." Up their kilt with a wire brush!" <

Thanks for a great historical presentation Colycat and for your effort to redress a wrong. Yer a great lad 

IMHO anyway!   

Castle Mountian

The reason for this extended AAR is all about the weekend.  When all the instructors really gel, the shooters get it.  We had time to do some really good things at this shoot.  Only 15 people and almost as many instructors.  Not saying this should continue, as it should not.  Full lines are what I am after.  Could have done this shoot with 3, maybe two instructors.  What the shooters did witness however was camaraderie of the first order.  A really good thing. Who would not want to be part of this?

Coly

As a PS, Someone from AS once wrote, and I won't quote it because I will butcher it. 

I spent my whole life developing friends, and after one Appleseed, I see what they are really worth.  Not much.  Sunshine friends, summer neighbors.  The people I meet a Appleseed, are true friends, ones who will be there when the chips are down.  Thank your Appleseed!!!!!

[colycat]

Thanks for the post on Winship, CM.  It was actually a former Brit, Shoot Boss V, who found out that Winship was actually one of the dangerous old men of the morning, who captured the supply wagon filled with powder and cannon ball.  Aparently some of the SB's did not see his post and would not honor him on April 19, 2009.  Too bad for them

[EEL]

Sheesh!!!  I thought the debate on the actions of these 2 men was settled waaay back on 4/19/09.  Seems there was a misconception that we were about to honor 2 drunks along with the men that died on the Green and elsewhere that day during our Nationwide Shoot at 1500 central time. 

Coly is correct, V did more research on these 2 and it seems they did their part earlier in the day, then retired to the pub to knock back a few.  It was then that they were caught in the mayhem of the Regulars retreat.  Gee, Dawes did his part, a very important part, then disappeared for the rest of the day, yet he is recognized. 

People, remember, thousands did their part that day. Someone told Dr. Warren of the plan.  Someone gave Revere her bloomers so the oars would be silent.  Someone gave Revere a fine horse.  Someone unlocked the North Church and posted the lanterns.  Someone rode out as scouts from Lexington.  77 someones took the Green at o-dark thirty.  Many "Someones" did their part that was not recorded in history books as being significant.

However, as Sir Edmund Burke puts it, "No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little."

Sometimes, the "small parts" end up being pivital and are thus recorded as noteworthy.  Other times the "whole" is the some of many "small parts".  Each bucket we throw over the side is that much less a burden to our sinking ship.  These 2 men carried their buckets that day.  How about grabbing yours ?  ?

EEL