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Started by The Machine, December 22, 2008, 02:29:39 AM

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The Machine

December 22, 2008, 02:29:39 AM
Appleseed is finally taking root in the Mountain State!  :~

We have a DAR being finalized in central WV, and another in the works, but there is still plenty of opportunity for folks who would like to host events in the N, S, E, and W parts of the state. I know you're out there, so now's the time to take a stand for Liberty!

All volunteer positions are open. Send me a PM and we'll talk things over  @@)

"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

funfaler

#1
December 23, 2008, 11:59:16 AM
There has been some "stirrin's" going on in the Mountaineer State!

TM, I did get your Host App and I still need an Instructor to step up to do a site survey  &)

I have also gotten a couple of other folks in WV that have contacted us, so we have cracked the ice, to be sure.

It is critical that all the folks in WV rally around The Machine, as he looks to be the center of the DAR movement in WV for now, perhaps a few more in the future  ;)

The biggest deal will be getting the word out.

Remember, Appleseed is about much more than shooting, it is American Heritage.  "I can shoot just fine" is no excuse.  The reply is, then how about helping us teach others and working to preserve this nation for our Children, the country that our Founding Fathers passed on to us.

Folks, the WV Appleseed program will be what you put into it.  This program is not a top-down organization, but a grassroots program.  It is neighbors waking up neighbors, in this case, fellow Mountaineers waking up other Mountaineers!   O0

Appleseed supplies the "starter seed" and some support to get you folks up to speed, then we move to North Dakota to do the same.

So, just for fun:

Looks like WV will get a DAR, this is very exciting!  This means that there will be 6-10 Appleseeds in WV, at this location alone.  Not to mention all the new sites that will be spawned from folks coming to their first Appleseeds at this location. 

This also means that there will be an WV Instructor course, in the Spring of 09, and again in the Fall, at a minimum.  This leads to WV getting 12 or more Instructors by the end of 09. 

This all sets WV up for 6-8 different locations, and 25-30 Appleseeds by 2010! 

That is, of course, if that is what you folks in WV would like ;)

25-30 Appleseeds = 750 to 900 Appleseeders in WV for 2010, added to the 300 or so from 2009....not too shabby <:) 

The dips in your couch will go away if you get up and take the Seventh Step!

The Machine

#2
December 23, 2008, 07:50:56 PM
QuoteRemember, Appleseed is about much more than shooting, it is American Heritage.  "I can shoot just fine" is no excuse.  The reply is, then how about helping us teach others and working to preserve this nation for our Children, the country that our Founding Fathers passed on to us.
FF is right on with this. The response that I usually get is something like: "I've been shootin' since I was knee high to a grasshopper, I'll show them Appleseed fellers how it's done!" Then I say "GREAT! We need folks like you to become instructors so you can show others how to shoot that well." I also ask if they know what the date 4/19/1775 means, and after some grumbling, they usually don't know. 

So, expect to get the initial high-and-mighty marksman comment, then gently bring them back to earth and explain the value of Appleseed--even if they are already a "crack pot"...oops, I meant "shot".  ::) 
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

The Machine

#3
December 23, 2008, 08:14:17 PM
QuoteThis also means that there will be an WV Instructor course, in the Spring of 09, and again in the Fall, at a minimum.  This leads to WV getting 12 or more Instructors by the end of 09.

This all sets WV up for 6-8 different locations, and 25-30 Appleseeds by 2010!

That is, of course, if that is what you folks in WV would like
FF, you are an underachiever, aren't you! ;D

No, what we'd like--at least me anyway--would be to set the bar higher and double your figures. There you go Mountaineers...the gauntlet has been laid down...now jump aboard and let's make this thing happen! O0
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Old Dog

#4
December 23, 2008, 08:18:59 PM
I was gonna stay out of this thread but I had to laugh when I read that last post.

Fred better watch out, I think the Machine (Fred, Jr.??) is moving in. ;D
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

The Machine

#5
December 23, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Old Dog on December 23, 2008, 08:18:59 PM
I was gonna stay out of this thread but I had to laugh when I read that last post.

Fred better watch out, I think the Machine (Fred, Jr.??) is moving in. ;D

I've been told that everyone has a twin.  :D
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Buzzstrike

#6
December 24, 2008, 01:37:58 AM
Hey TM good on ya for finally getting the ball rolling in our home state of WV..


Yeah they say that they can shoot, but it's usually from a treestand or off of the bench. 

Been there done that.

Also, I saw you may be up around my old stomping grounds of the upper Ohio Valley from a post in another thread.

If so hot damn.

The Valley has lost its way the last few years with all of the cuts from Weriton Steel, Wheeling Pit, and alll others who depend on steel, glass and coke.  (ok for those who don't know coke is coal that baked in a hot oven to remove all of its unwanted properties.  this is the fuel for making steel.)

I wish I could be up there to help you guys, but I'm busy down here in Georgia trying to get these yahoos to step up and be drafted for the AS.

Keep the Faith.

Buzz.

Montani Semper Liberi (Mountaineers Are Always Free)

The Machine

#7
December 24, 2008, 02:55:03 AM Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 05:44:21 AM by The Machine
Quote from: Buzzstrike on December 24, 2008, 01:37:58 AM
Hey TM good on ya for finally getting the ball rolling in our home state of WV..


Yeah they say that they can shoot, but it's usually from a treestand or off of the bench. 

Been there done that.

Also, I saw you may be up around my old stomping grounds of the upper Ohio Valley from a post in another thread.

If so hot damn.

The Valley has lost its way the last few years with all of the cuts from Weriton Steel, Wheeling Pit, and alll others who depend on steel, glass and coke.  (ok for those who don't know coke is coal that baked in a hot oven to remove all of its unwanted properties.  this is the fuel for making steel.)

I wish I could be up there to help you guys, but I'm busy down here in Georgia trying to get these yahoos to step up and be drafted for the AS.

Keep the Faith.

Buzz.


Man, all the West Virginians are coming out of the shadows, it's just a shame they don't live here anymore. :'(

I know what you're saying about shooting from a tree stand or a bench. It's almost taboo to do it any other way around here. ;D

I'm a little further south from your home town, but I know where you're referring to. We live near Nebo, about right in the center of the state, 5 miles from I-79.

Yeah, the industries you mentioned have been fluctuating the last few years, experiencing a real bad down cycle right now.

If you get up this way Buzz, definitely give us a shout. My mom just retired to Alabama, so maybe I could coordinate a Georgia AS with a family visit someday.

Thanks for the encouragement!
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Buzzstrike

#8
December 24, 2008, 10:22:36 PM
I live in coweta county down here.  They have at LEAST 4 AS here in Ga.  Two of them in Toccoa which is only about a 1.5 hr drive from Atlanta, and Hinesville which is the southern part of Ga's AS.  Its near Savannah (sp?)

There is also a mini AS over in Aniston Al just off of I-20 iirc. 

Check out the Homestate posts for updates.  Alot of times if enough people what to to shoot they may put together a impromptu AS for the day.


I'll keep my eyes ears open.

buzz.
Montani Semper Liberi (Mountaineers Are Always Free)

The Machine

#9
December 29, 2008, 05:40:33 AM
QuoteTM, I did get your Host App and I still need an Instructor to step up to do a site survey  &)
Mmm...I see the clown is still battin'. As the post says: "Appleseed is taking root in WV", but it can stand a little watering, in the form of an instructor to do site surveys. We have construction pending on two DARs.

We are not looking for hand-outs here, just a hand-up, so we can get our own state AS program going. If any of the foundational group in WV were qualified, we'd do it ourselves, but that just isn't the case. I don't think it's appropriate to put the job in ff's lap either. So could someone please step off the sofa? Thanks! O0

"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Truculent turtle

#10
December 29, 2008, 12:10:01 PM
Hi  guys.  I  was  sort  of  wondering  when  WV  would  come  out  of  the  woods.  Good  to  see.  For   The Machine  and  Funfaler  specifically if  there  is  something  I  can  do  to  help,  instruct  or  site  survey  or  whatever  and the  location  is  even  sort  of  close  to  Northern Va,  then  just  ask.

The Machine

#11
December 29, 2008, 12:56:06 PM Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 07:47:53 PM by The Machine
Thanks TT, I sent a PM.

I also sent a response to the PM that you sent to me. I sent copies to Fred, funfaler, Maryetta, and Dirty Bill. The first one that I sent returned a message saying it couldn't find members Fred and Dirty Bill. I resent the same PM to each of them individually. If this all sounds confusing to you, it is to me also. ::)

Maybe I'm missing something when sending a PM using the Bcc feature? Is there a limit on amount of copies that can be sent? Does the system hiccup sometimes, creating the problem I had?
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

GunnerJim

#12
January 06, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
 O0

I'm good to go down in Mercer County, but want to attend a second RBC and maybe an IBC first.

Gunner Jim
;)
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
George Washington

Old Dog

#13
January 06, 2009, 10:55:49 PM
Don't rule out the IBC for the last weekend of March here in central VA.  The last Friday, Saturday and Sunday of March.  Keep checking the schedule and looking for the posts on the IBC.  I'm sure once it is set up so folks can begin to register there'll be more posts on that thread.

See you there.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

GunnerJim

#14
January 06, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Old Dog,
Last year's RBC wasn't that good for me. I was "almost over" a bad chest cold, screwed up the maintenance on my M-1, and didn't stay for the Appleseed because I wasn't really feeling well. That being said, I failed to qualify as Rifleman, and I refuse to participate in an IBC or attempt to teach someone to do something that I haven't done - yet!

Now it's a matter of when. My wife doesn't want me to go to Ramseur in Feb; he b-day is during the May RBC in Ramseur, so we'll see what happens.

Gunner Jim
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
George Washington

Old Dog

#15
January 07, 2009, 09:14:42 AM
Don't know how close you are to firing that 210 (or better), but the IBC the end of March in central VA is a "shooting" IBC.  Some of them, based on location/facilities, do not have the option of actually firing rifles.  This one will be held on private land and VAshooter has promised some shooting.  If you're close, this could be your opportunity.

PM VAshooter, discuss your current level with him and see what he says about you attending.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

The Machine

#16
January 07, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
Something else to keep in mind GJ, we will be holding our own miniAS/IBC in WV sometime during March. This would save a little on travel time and expense, since you are about 2.5 - 3 hrs. from our location. ;)

OD, if I have the doe-re-me, maybe I'll round up some Mountaineers to attend the VA IBC that you mentioned.

And another thing OD, since you are still considered a fellow Mountaineer, we'll give you a pass on using the West Virginia section of this forum to tap "recruits"...we're all on the same team! ;D O0
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Old Dog

#17
January 07, 2009, 02:49:59 PM
Sorry, hadn't heard anything about an IBC in WV (that I recall).  I was just inviting a WV Instructor candidate to attend the VA IBC so he'd be that much closer to being able to jump in and help when WV got their DARs up and running.

I still go home regularly to get my passport renewed.  I'm 51 and I've been "going home" since 1957.  Only two problems with it.  First is I don't get home often enough.  The second is I always have to leave and come back down here.

Do you think your March IBC will be at one of the DARs, or somewhere else?

Oh, the link to the sign up page (the VA IBC for March is still not up yet but can be found here once it's added so folks can begin signing up) is http://www.appleseedinfo.org/bc_schedule.htm

Have a good one.  Oh yeah, should the WV March IBC attendees bring a snow shovel, or will a #2 be acceptable? **)
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

The Machine

#18
January 07, 2009, 03:22:55 PM
QuoteHave a good one.  Oh yeah, should the WV March IBC attendees bring a snow shovel, or will a #2 be acceptable?
I see you haven't lost your WV humor! I like that...#2! ;D

You know we are used to doing things the hard way around here...the weather is just a slight inconvenience. If folks want to work on their tan or be coddled at an AS, then maybe they should pass on this one. ::)

You DO know I was just bustin' your gonads on the previous post! ;)

We aren't advertising the IBC because it is a "hybrid" gathering and doesn't meet all the parameters of an "official" sanctioned AS event. Dinky from over Ohio way is helping us put it all together. She has some IITs that could use some practice and WE definitely need a crash course, so we brainstormed the idea. You or anyone in VA that wants to join the party, are more than welcome. It will most likely be held in Nebo, since all we are really lacking is the people and targets. Oh...lest I forget...the official recognition of the location as a DAR. O0

"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Old Dog

#19
January 07, 2009, 04:41:01 PM
For all you flatlanders who haven't unloaded a truck load of coal (or two ;D) into a coal house or filled up coal scuttles every night before dark, a #2 shovel is fairly small, flat, and short - compared to a snow shovel.  But they will far outlast the snow shovels sold these days.  Hey, maybe that's why my arms used to be much steadier holding that '03 Springfield in the offhand position (with no sling - slings is what you use to carry it with after you kill the buck ;)).

Hey, when you settle on a date, let us know.  I might be able to get home that weekend and at least come by for a visit and meet folks.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

VAshooter

#20
January 07, 2009, 05:58:52 PM
When you get your dates worked out, let me know. I may take a ride over there to see what you guys are doing. Old Dog and Dinki are old friends. The IBC in Virginia will be the 27th through the 29th of March. I should be able to make it unless yours is the same weekend.

VAshooter

The Machine

#21
January 07, 2009, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: VAshooter on January 07, 2009, 05:58:52 PM
When you get your dates worked out, let me know. I may take a ride over there to see what you guys are doing. Old Dog and Dinki are old friends. The IBC in Virginia will be the 27th through the 29th of March. I should be able to make it unless yours is the same weekend.

VAshooter

Sure thing VA...I would like to do it before the 27th, but after Dinky makes the DAR inspection on 1/12 - 13, we'll have a better feel for when it will be. I will send a PM as soon as we have a date. ;)

"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

GunnerJim

#22
January 10, 2009, 05:12:15 PM
According to the schedule there are no Appleseeds nor IBC scheduled in WV or VA this year.

Status please?

I'd like to do the Boot Camp at Ramseur, but none of the dates are good for me. So I'll "settle" for an Appleseed and an IBC.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
George Washington

Dirty Bill

#23
January 10, 2009, 05:46:53 PM
Hang on,we are busy getting a range,and there will be AS in WV this year. O0
"On the plains of hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions,who at the dawn of victory,sat down to rest,and while resting,Died.

"Watch the Wind..."

TracyWV

#24
January 22, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
Another West Virginian here eagerly awaiting approval of a range for an Appleseed in West Virginia this year so he can hope for attendance of more WVans of an Appleseed.

Quote from: The Machine on December 29, 2008, 05:40:33 AM
QuoteTM, I did get your Host App and I still need an Instructor to step up to do a site survey  &)
Mmm...I see the clown is still battin'. As the post says: "Appleseed is taking root in WV", but it can stand a little watering, in the form of an instructor to do site surveys. We have construction pending on two DARs.

We are not looking for hand-outs here, just a hand-up, so we can get our own state AS program going. If any of the foundational group in WV were qualified, we'd do it ourselves, but that just isn't the case. I don't think it's appropriate to put the job in ff's lap either. So could someone please step off the sofa? Thanks! O0


Tracy

"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." — Samuel Adams
Campaign for Liberty

The Machine

#25
January 22, 2009, 06:24:02 PM
Welcome aboard TracyWV! What part of the state do you hail from?

As part of your "Welcome Package" comes an offer to select a volunteer position that suits your particular skills/talents. At this time everything is open except the "flyer/promotional material design" job, which Maryetta is handling. So that leaves the other 101 positions available! ;D

Send me a PM if you have any particular questions that need addressed. You just made my day sir...the team is growing as planned. O0
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

Dirty Bill

#26
January 23, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
Tracey,Welcome to the WV Team.. O0
"On the plains of hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions,who at the dawn of victory,sat down to rest,and while resting,Died.

"Watch the Wind..."

TracyWV

#27
January 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: The Machine on January 22, 2009, 06:24:02 PM

So that leaves the other 101 positions available!

Well, I don't know what those 101 positions are.  I only know 4 "standing" "kneeling" "sitting" "prone". ;D
But seriously, I don't have a clue what needs to be done but I am willing to help where I can whatever that may be.
Tracy

"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." — Samuel Adams
Campaign for Liberty

The Machine

#28
January 23, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: TracyWV on January 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: The Machine on January 22, 2009, 06:24:02 PM

So that leaves the other 101 positions available!

Well, I don't know what those 101 positions are.  I only know 4 "standing" "kneeling" "sitting" "prone". ;D
But seriously, I don't have a clue what needs to be done but I am willing to help where I can whatever that may be.

Tracy, you have two things I like...a sense of humor and motivation...you're going places in the WV Appleseed program my friend! ;D

I guess the best way to approach this, would be for you to PM (Private Message) me with whatever skills or knowledge you may have. That would allow me to match you up with a task that currently needs done.

We are working on a job list that will be posted in the WV section in the near future.

I can tell you that promotions is numero uno right now. I am referring to radio, TV, letter writing, emails, flyers, WV specific internet sites, tables at gun shows and conventions, etc. Does any of that tickle your fancy?

Just contact me and we'll match you up with something. I appreciate your willingness to help "bail the sinking ship"! O0

"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"

The Machine

#29
March 09, 2009, 04:48:41 AM
I want to thank the 5 Mountaineer's (TracyWV, Aaron, Tim, Ben, and Shawn) who generously took time from their families and personal schedules to come out and lend a hand with the DAR preparation. I hearby dub you all "The Society of the Black Doughnut"; I think you get my drift... ;D

We had wonderful weather--it actually hit 80--that brought out the sweat profusely, while everyone braved the briers and were cooled occasionally by the splash of "a funky liquid substance", that had been fermenting in the objects to be moved.  !@#) ;D

The crew took a break from the festivities for the lunch that Sugie prepared, while we discussed the importance of launching the Appleseed Project in WV and the strategy for growing the program in the near future, among other things.

All the hard, dirty, work paid off in the end, when the "hardware" came out of the cases and the range was officially "broken in".

I made 5 new friends Sat., that not only helped move the Appleseed program along in WV, but are true patriots commited to saving this country...thank's again guys.  O0
"I proudly support limited government and unlimited common sense"

"One of the great advantages of the American Revolution has been, that it led to a discovery of the principles, and laid open the imposition, of governments." - Thomas Paine 1792

"It does not take many words to speak the truth"
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